• @whileloop
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    If the world is going towards simplified logos, gotta at least make yours good. Firefox did that. Can’t complain.

    • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️
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      I wanna go back to medieval crests, where they would throw in symbology for every little detail about the family/guild/whatever. I wanna be able to know everything about a product/app just by looking at its icon.

      • @whileloop
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        Wow I actually love this idea. There could be some common symbol in the crests to denote what kind of open source license they follow (GNU, MIT, etc), affiliation with other software, all sorts of cool stuff.

    • snooggums
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      I’m still going to complain.

      The new one is bland and I hate the bright colors. If it was the same but with the old color palette it would be acceptable.

    • @tahoe
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      Yeah, I feel like it’s one of the best current logos. It’s simplified but not oversimplified and it looks really good.

    • @[email protected]
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      That’s not it. Mozilla has ruined firefox. They have added spyware and made google the default engine. Most of their profits go to shady places, etc

      • @[email protected]
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        641 year ago

        They have added spyware

        Uh, yeah; gonna need a source on this. You’re allowed to not like that they made Google the default search engine, but this statement is straight up-misinformation.

      • callyral
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        411 year ago

        They need money somehow, making Google the default search engine is a source of income.

        • AbsolutelyNotCats
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          1 year ago

          You can always make startpage or ddg your default search engine anyways, both on android and desktop

          • The Quuuuuill
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            331 year ago

            Takes a couple of seconds to change the default engine, turn off the gnarlier of the telemetry, and disable the sponsored stuff in the new tab page. Infinitely better than any other mainstream browser

          • @[email protected]
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            Duckduckgo proxies bing search results (ober the api, they aren’t chad scrapers) and is therefore is under the foot of microsoft. This has forced them to whitelist ms trackers in their privacy tools but I haven’t heard anything bad about the search engine.

            Startpage scrapes google results so isn’t under anyones foot. It has had some controversy due to being bought by an ad company but they haven’t seemed to do anything bad yet

            In all, startpage is better than duckduckgo

            • @[email protected]
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              11 year ago

              Are you referring to the time when the DuckDuckGo browser was blocking all known trackers except Microsoft trackers? After that information was made public and users complained, DuckDuckGo was able to renegotiate its agreement with Microsoft so that it can block their trackers.

              Furthermore, DuckDuckGo now publish their blocklist on GitHub.

              Source: https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/05/duckduckgo-microsoft-tracking-scripts

              It’s worth clarifying that this issue affected the DuckDuckGo browser, not the search engine itself.

              So if you were refusing to use DuckDuckGo browser on the basis that they allow Microsoft tracking, then that issue has been resolved now. But if you were saying that this incident has made you lose trust in DDG and that’s why you refuse to use it… well, that’s fair enough. It’s your choice, but I personally would trust DDG more than StartPage, just because StartPage is owned by an ad company.

        • HotsauceHurricane
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          91 year ago

          It keeps Google from anti-competitive lawsuits. So it’s mutually beneficial, although the first thing you should do is change your search engine to a more private one.

      • The Quuuuuill
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        401 year ago

        Googles been the default engine since the Netscape Websuite days. I don’t always love what Mozilla does with their browser, but they do an excellent job of balancing “the web should be easy to use,” “the web should be humane,” and “the web should be what you want it to be.”

        If you want to say Mozilla sucks, that’s fine, go ahead, just be ready for that any other browser Dev group is either worse or dependent on being downstream of Firefox to do what they do

  • Eochaid
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    1261 year ago

    I couldn’t give two shits about a fucking icon.

  • @[email protected]
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    The old logo is too busy and doesn’t look like fire. Ngl I like the new one, it feels like the fire is cradling the earth.

  • @[email protected]
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    I think it’s neat especially next to the new thunderbird logo. IMHO it still has character and is not oversimplified.

  • @Odo
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    Wow. I’m surprised at the dislike for the old detailed icon. Maybe it’s being old enough to remember black and white icons, but I miss the increasing amount of colors that icons had for a while there. I hate the trend toward monocolor silhouettes.

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      It is more the dislike of people hating on the new icon, like OP.

      Either icon is fine, you may dislike one of the icons but at the end of the day it is just an icon.

      You click it, it opens the software, and you move on.

    • @[email protected]
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      271 year ago

      Oh, hence Thunderbird.

      …Wait, where are Waterbird and Landbird ? Are they safe ? Are they alright ?

    • 𝖕𝖘𝖊𝖚𝖉
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      Originally called Phoenix, since it was Netscape Navigator, reborn.

      But Phoenix Technologies disliked that, so they renamed to a descriptive name for the same immortal bird – Firebird.

      The Firebird database people would have none of that, so after a few-months gap between 0.x releases, they found the closest thing they possibly could which was not trademarked. It had nothing to do with the original name idea, fire being a weak link.

      And we’ve been stuck with that stupid name for two decades.

      • @[email protected]
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        It’s kinda crazy the whole reason we have Firefox is a company was crushed by Microsoft and said “fuck it, shit’s open source now.”

      • @[email protected]
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        61 year ago

        There was a satirical addon back in this day that would change the Firefox name every time you opened it to like WaterHippo or SunJackal to make fun of this.

    • @Selmafudd
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      101 year ago

      I have no memory of the 2002 one and I swapped over from Netscape which is weird… I have a vague memory of their thunderbird logo looking similar at one point but maybe I’m getting them mixed up

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      41 year ago

      Didn’t it used to be called Firebird or something but had to change its name due to copyright? I remember when it was v1 and seeing advertising about it in the paper. It really did start the ball rolling in getting people away from IE. Chrome then came out and dominated.

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        I remember installing Firebird 0.6 off a magazine cover disk!

        I think I switched back to Mozilla pretty quickly as I was like “but this is just a browser, where’s email and IRC”

        I guess I didn’t originally get the point. Ended up switching back a couple of years later

    • @[email protected]
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      21 year ago

      I’m fine with the current logo. But, the 2002 logo looks rad. After that, the logo from 2004 is cool.

  • Hot Saucerman
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    261 year ago

    “What happened to me? People care more about polished functionality than their privacy, and are willing to trade privacy for something that steals all their data as long as it is “faster,” even though I’m arguably faster than Chrome at this point…”

    Most regular ass people don’t give one flying fuck about being owned by corporations, they’re happy to get reamed by companies that don’t give a shit if they live or die.