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Friendly reminder:
https://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=1903
It is hypocritical to claim to be the party of law and order when you support sedition, the interference of elections, and violence against political enemies.
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song and pony show dance fake circus
They literally just… say words.
It’s worse than that though:
“I think that these people need to be replaced,”
“If we do that,” Peters continued, “none of this song and pony show dance fake circus nonsense would even be in existence because the people that are perpetuating this and have openly declared war on the American people will be held to extreme accountability, and they will be gone.”
the only thing stopping them from completing [their new world order] is 450 million guns in this country, so now we just need to talk about what to do with those guns and how to use them.”
This is calling for the death of political opponents.
These people always seem to forget the fact that many of us libs are armed to the teeth and actually practice with our arms. Mine are not “safe queens” or “penis extensions”. Mine work and I’m good enough with them.
They also forget that POC, LGBT/trans folks, women and other typically liberal demographics have been the largest group of gun buyers for a few years. And they’re asking what to buy, how to be responsible, how to train.
My Colt Government Model sits on my desk, where I work and play, and either my AR-15 or my 12-gauge sits by my bed where I sleep.
If they want to get their back up, I will not go quietly into the night. Rest of y’all libs can clutch your pearls and agonize over, “How can we take these guns away?!” You cannot choose to be peaceful if you are harmless.
Have you seen a MAGA rally? Being a Women of POC does not make you a liberal.
Lmao. Cringe. Insert Navy Seal copypasta.
If guns ensured the safety of minorities, why isn’t America the safest country in the world for minorities? Instead, those minorities are threatened and hunted by legal gun owners.
Insisting that those minorities follow your example and surround themselves with poorly secured firearms at all times is not only deeply fucked in the head, it doesn’t even work.
Someone who wants to kill (which to put bluntly, sounds like it includes you) will always have the advantage over someone being forced to kill.
All armed minorities does is gives far-right extremists the excuse they need to execute undesirables, a realisation the police have been taking full advantage of.
Oh and of course funnel profits to the gun lobby, which is undoubtedly the origin of these kinds of self-aggrandising social media posts from “liberals”.
You’re not a hero. You’re a product of systemic failure and a for-profit industry advertising itself as the solution, like the tobacco companies telling people smoking was good for asthma.
The people you’re pretending to protect would be safer in countries with gun laws you oppose. Put your guns in a safe and grow up.
Why would you follow anyone named stupider!?
Holy shit 🤣🤣🤣 I was so pissed at the words I blew right past the name
Hahaha no wonder he’s got such a fucking chip on his shoulder! Stupiders can fuck right off!
I guess you get what you vote for.
From the link above, to save you a click:
"seditionn. the federal crime of advocacy of insurrection against the government or support for an enemy of the nation during time of war, by speeches, publications and organization. Sedition usually involves actually conspiring to disrupt the legal operation of the government and is beyond expression of an opinion or protesting government policy. Sedition is a lesser crime than “treason,” which requires actual betrayal of the government, or “espionage.” Espionage involves spying on the government, trading state secrets (particularly military) to another country (even a friendly nation), or sabotaging governmental facilities, equipment or suppliers of the government, like an aircraft factory. During U.S. participation in World War II (1941-1945) several leaders of the German-American Bund, a pro-Nazi organization, were tried and convicted of sedition for actively interfering with the war effort. Since freedom of speech, press and assembly are guaranteed by the Bill of Rights and because treason and espionage charges can be made for overt acts against the nation’s security, sedition charges are rare.
See also: espionage treason "I can’t believe Im still bothered by this troll post,but this also presumes conservatives are a hive mind of a sort?
but this also presumes conservatives are a hive mind of a sort?
How exactly is that the implication?
It is hypocritical to claim to be the party of law and order when you support sedition, the interference of elections, and violence against political enemies.
Is Stupider representative of all conservatives? You know, making the stupider assumption he’s actually conservative and not a troll?
Also, “the party of law and order” I didn’t know the GOP had exclusive rights to the conservative mindset, and they were all identical.
At least in my latest fluff post, I made sure to mention that it was one guy doing a dumb thing, and not representative of all lefties, or even the DNC.
Is Stupider representative of all conservatives?
I never said he was. He is however, representative of a significant chunk of conservatives.
https://rephonic.com/podcasts/the-patriotically-correct-radio-show-with-stew-pet
https://podbay.fm/p/the-patriotically-correct-radio-show-with-stew-peters-or-pcradio/reviews
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15792092/ratings/?ref_=tt_ov_rt
Look at the comments and reviews for his content, he’s got quite a lot of support under him. These are conservatives who listen to him, and evidently are ok with calls to execute political opponents.
You know, making the stupider assumption he’s actually conservative and not a troll?
We’ve already talked about this. His intentions are irrelevant, no matter what they are he is spreading support for sedition, election interference, violence against political enemies, etc.
Even if he is a troll, this is essentially what he is doing, but worse because his “jokes” are fascist. Him being a troll doesn’t make things any better.
Also, “the party of law and order” I didn’t know the GOP had exclusive rights to the conservative mindset, and they were all identical.
I never said the GOP did, or that all conservatives are identical.
So why post this here and not /politics?
Also, the dude is a troll, if the name didn’t give it away.
Also, the dude is a troll, if the name didn’t give it away.
Right. So he can advocate for overthrowing the government and then we you call him out on it, he can say, “Hahaha! You’re an idiot for believing me!” And then he’ll happily watch as others overthrow the government should it come to that.
Mate, if you think a guy who calls himself stupider is being serious, I have a bridge to sell you, it was designed by Ben Dover and Mike Ock.
From the Rhetoric of Fascism:
Fascism first secures advantage through playful spectacles of a rhetoric both critical toward and within democracy.
Stew Peters is hilarious. And it is ridiculous to believe someone that calls himself that.
But the Just Jokes thing is a trope.
There is overlap between this trope and emotional abuse.
It’s the same thing.
You can try to sell me whatever you want, honestly. But that’s fundamentally different from exercising your supposed free speech any platform to advocate the violent overthrow of the government.
Mate, you’re putting way too much effort in over a guy who calls himself stupider, and says he was born on April Fools day.
But its different when its communist, right?
Your strawman reveals that you lost the argument.
What do you mean? Ideally, I’m looking for an example…
Any communist revolution really.
Oh. You mean revolting? Not the playful rhetoric of violence leading up to it.
Yeah, no, actual revolution is never as clean as anyone wants it to be. And a bunch of innocent people that just want to live their lives get caught up in someone’s bitch ass feelings being hurt.
I don’t support revolution, no, communist or otherwise. But these violence adoring fascists with ironic names and quirky messages of sedition can get bent too. That’s all I’m saying.
I deleted my other response to give a more detailed one now that I have the time.
So why post this here and not /politics?
This is the conservative community, and this article is about conservatism. That alone means that this article is relevant. Additionally, this article was already posted at c/politics, so there would be no point making a second post there. Third, there is sentiment amongst conservatives that democrats are authoritarians instead of republicans, and articles like these clearly show the opposite. I had a whole conversation about /u/10a about this exact sort of thing.
Also, the dude is a troll
I’m not. Just because somebody disagrees with you doesn’t mean that they are a troll. If you want to know what a troll looks like, then look no further than the guy that got banned the other day for telling people to shoot themselves for being democrats.
if the name didn’t give it away.
I just couldn’t think of a name tbh. And conservatives have a habit of shooting/killing/calling for the death of political opponents (see quote above), so I had no intention of using an identifiable name.
Responding to your other comment here
it’s not really suited here
“A community to discuss conservative politics and views.” is the purpose of this community. This article is about conservitve politics and views. I don’t know what else to tell you.
And every time you do, all my posts get buried for the next few days.
If your ideas cannot survive in the free market of ideas, then that is on you.
I’m not saying you’re a troll, the jury is still out on that. But I’m saying the guy who calls himself stupider is a troll.
Ah, I see what you meant now. I’m too used to you and others calling me a troll automatically, simply because I disagree.
Regardless, from what I can tell, Stew Peters is his actual name, not a joke or troll name:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stew_Peters
And double regardless, shit like this within conservatism should be a giant red flag no matter what subsection of conservatism is saying it. Being “ironically” racist is racist, similarly being “ironically” fascist is still fascist. /u/PeepinGoodArgs has explained this very well.
Im still not convinved he isn’t just a troll, especially with a birthday on april fools days, but that is a lot of effort.
Red flag for what exactly? We all know assholes and idiots exist.
That second link is from a court case, which presumably would have his actual name. And again, I don’t care too much if he is a troll or not. The fact that conservatives embrace him at all is a problem.
Red flag for what exactly?
For conservatism. I’m sure you’ve heard this quote before, “If there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, then you got a table with 11 Nazis.” This guy may not be a literal Nazi, but he is waving the flag of fascism for one reason or another, and he is quite successful in the right wing sphere from what I can tell.
What exactly are you implying?
I’m saying that fascism is a problem within conservatism. And guys like this are an example.
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Fluff or no, it’s not really suited here, except for brigaders to brigade some more. And every time you do, all my posts get buried for the next few days.
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