• @chitak166
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    3011 months ago

    Those poor people.

  • @blahsay
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    2511 months ago

    I’m not sure if Hamas has noticed but they’re not exactly winning this war.

    At this point they’re obviously just trying to get as many Palestinians killed as possible for propaganda.

    The poor Palestinians have a government that’s actively trying to get them killed.

    If Hamas cared even an iota for their people they’d surrender and end the war.

    • NoneOfUrBusiness
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      If Hamas cared even an iota for their people they’d surrender and end the war.

      Have you seen what happened to parts of Gaza occupied by the IDF?

    • Skeezix
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      111 months ago

      This community has a large pro-hamas faction. Youve just pissed them off.

      • @blahsay
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        1511 months ago

        I don’t really understand their position. Surely the option that leads to least Palestinian deaths would be something they want? It’s honestly just weird.

        Some of you Palestinians may die, but it’s a sacrifice Hamas is willing to make

        😞

          • @slaacaa
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            This is very true, taking a contrarian stance is an easy way to “show” (pretend) that you have an edgy personality. This I think covers most of the young white Westerners.

            The other part is just antisemitic people, of which a lot exists even in Western countries (and not just immigrants, who are often blamed solely).

      • @machinin
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        1411 months ago

        That user is probably one of the biggest sources of Israeli disinformation on this site. Everyone is just tired of their shit.

  • @[email protected]
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    Dumb plan, Hamas. Israel will just bomb you to shits in record time…

    Edit: y’all don’t get it. This gives Israel an excuse for total war. You ain’t seen nothing yet.

    • @Evilcoleslaw
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      5811 months ago

      That’s what Israel is doing, has been doing, and would continue to do whether the hostages are returned or not.

      • donuts
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        If it makes no difference either way then they should free the hostages simply because it’s the right thing to do…

        It really shouldn’t be hard or controversial to support the innocent people on both sides of this horrible war. Free the damn hostages and stop the bombings.

        • NoneOfUrBusiness
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          911 months ago

          The hostages are there for a reason, and that’s to give Hamas more leverage during the eventual ceasefire negotiations. There are Palestinian prisoners they need to release and goods they need to get through the blockade, among other things.

          • @smashin
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            411 months ago

            Palestinian hostages* who were detained unlawfully under false pretenses.

          • @[email protected]
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            So you’re saying they need them for a ceasefire deal? Then why no negotiations for a ceasefire?

            • NoneOfUrBusiness
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              Because Israel doesn’t want a ceasefire. They want a complete military victory. That’s why Hamas just said no more hostage releases until cessation of hostilities, to pressure them to accept a ceasefire.

          • donuts
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            a reason, and that’s to give Hamas more leverage during the eventual ceasefire negotiations

            I don’t find “leverage” and political bargaining to be a good reason to take innocent people hostage.

            But even if I did, I think Hamas has a pretty fucking terrible track record of negotiating anything on the behalf of Palestinians. The October 7th terror attacks brought Gaza from the frying pan into the fire, and I doubt there will be anything resembling a ceasefire until the hostages are freed.

            The morally right thing for Hamas to do is to free the hostages and to turn over anybody who was involved in the October 7th terror attacks. The morally right thing for Israel to do is to implement an immediate ceasefire, facilitate aide into Gaza, and call back all illegal settlers in the West Bank. Will either side do the right thing? I don’t know, probably not, but I can only hope.

            • NoneOfUrBusiness
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              I don’t find “leverage” and political bargaining to be a good reason to take innocent people hostage.

              It is when that political bargaining is necessary to get people out of permanent “administrative detention”, and when people need… Well, basically everything (including food and water) in Gaza (that’s always the case because of the blockade). Remember that half of Gazans are malnourished.

              But even if I did, I think Hamas has a pretty fucking terrible track record of negotiating anything on the behalf of Palestinians.

              They don’t, though. Remember Sheikh Jarrah? Hamas takes hostages because it’s the only thing that works.

      • @blahsay
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        -911 months ago

        Israel has said it’d end the war if Hamas surrenders and releases the hostages.

        Seems like the only way to prevent Palestinian deaths at this point

        • Quokka
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          2211 months ago

          Is it?

          Because Israel was killing them before Hamas ever existed, and they won’t suddenly stop after.

          • @blahsay
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            Jews and Muslims fighting? You don’t say?!

            Israel has stated their intent and there’s enough international pressure on them that they’ll keep to it.

            I’m all ears about how you think Hamas prolonging the war for months more will benefit the Palestinians.

            • @[email protected]
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              -111 months ago

              It won’t, but it will kill some Israelis as well, and that’s a sacrifice internet armchair generals are willing to make.

        • @smashin
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          211 months ago

          Israel is Nazi Germany, they won’t stop anything until they’re forced to.

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          Removed by mod

    • @[email protected]
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      711 months ago

      I mean, its not like they weren’t bombing the shit out of gaza in the first place, killing hundreds every day. I’d be surprised if Israel could bomb gaza any harder than they already are.

    • Limitless_screaming
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      311 months ago

      “Israel” is committed to destroying Gaza and getting revenge by killing as many people as possible. Hamas doesn’t want that, and Hamas has the hostages. So simply: want to destroy Gaza? Your hostages will go down with it.

      • @[email protected]
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        211 months ago

        Israel is committed to destroying the army of Hamas, and to prevent it from ruling Gaza. It is not committed to destroying Gaza.

        Hamas could end the war any minute. Pressuring Israel to let Hamas survive instead of pressuring Hamas to surrender and return the hostages is being pro-Hamas, not pro Palestinian.

        • NoneOfUrBusiness
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          411 months ago

          It is not committed to destroying Gaza.

          Then why did they destroy Gaza worse than the allies destroyed WWII Germany?

          • @[email protected]
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            111 months ago

            I think it is quite obvious: to destroy the Hamas infrastructure and to kill as many Hamas militants as possible, while minimising Israeli casualties.

            If you have a better suggestion for how to destroy Hamas’ ability to continue to attack Israel I’m sure they would love to hear it.

        • Limitless_screaming
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          Pressuring Israel to let Hamas survive instead of pressuring Hamas to surrender and return the hostages is being pro-Hamas, not pro Palestinian.

          “Not wanting the murderous government that is actively finding ways to kill and displace Palestinians in places that it controls to take control of Gaza is being pro-Hamas”

          Hamas are the extremists of the Palestinians, the IDF and “Israeli” government are the extremists of the “Israeli” people. Why would I want the IDF to take control of Gaza?

          • @[email protected]
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            111 months ago

            Hamas surrender would PREVENT Israel from occupying Gaza. If Hamas wouldn’t have taken the hostages in the first place Israel wouldn’t have attacked Gaza.

            Is the current Hamas strategy working for the Gazans civilians?

            So yes, if you want to support Gazans civilians, and prevent Israel from occupying Gaza, you should push Hamas to surrender and return the hostages.

  • AutoTL;DRB
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    511 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Hamas, the group which controls the Gaza Strip, has ruled out any more hostage releases until Israel agrees to a “full cessation of aggression”.

    Fighting continues in Gaza, with Israel bombarding the north and south of the territory and Hamas firing rockets at Tel Aviv.

    Among the Palestinians reported killed were the director of the police station in the southern city of Khan Younis and a daughter of the head of the Gaza health ministry.

    The week-long truce this month brought an increased flow of aid into Gaza, where the UN has warned that the population is at risk of famine if the war between Israel and Hamas continues.

    In a statement, Hamas said: “There is a Palestinian national decision that there should be no talk about prisoners or exchange deals except after a full cessation of aggression.”

    Early on Friday, the territory’s Hamas-run health ministry put the overall death toll there since 7 October at 20,057, including at least 8,000 children and 6,200 women.


    The original article contains 467 words, the summary contains 165 words. Saved 65%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

  • @ghostdoggtv
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    211 months ago

    Israel can’t defeat Hamas without catching them in a lethal, collaterally damaging strike on Qatar. The Holocaust of Gaza will continue until morale improves.

  • @Linkerbaan
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    Sadly israel directly kidnapped many of the Palestinian hostages again after releasing them.

    The IDF kidnapped almost as many hostages as they released during the truce. Now more. And they torture their hostages whereas Hamas doesn’t. And israel violated the truce at the start of it by shooting civilians returning north.

    It’s sad that the IDF are such an untrustworthy terrorist organization.

    • @RapidcreekOP
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      they torture their hostages whereas Hamas doesn’t.

      BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      • @blahsay
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        1311 months ago

        You have to hand it to them - lying that unashamedly is impressive! Hamas doesn’t torture…yeesh.

      • @Linkerbaan
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        If only every single hostage released by Hamas didn’t prove my point am I right?

        And every single hostage released by IDF terrorists says they were tortured, including women and children being starved, beaten to broken bones, threatened with rape, tear gassed in their cells for three days straight and being denied any medical care causing many to die am I right? (and that’s just a few examples of IDF terrorist crimes)

        ;)

    • @MeanEYE
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      whereas Hamas doesn’t

      Hahaha… Right… this is hamas. As you can see no torture.

      • @Linkerbaan
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        Your site contains made up IDF propganda stated as facts without any evidence.

        There is not a single gopro video of Hamas or any israeli CCTV camera that recorded any rape. And the israelis have a lot of CCTV cameras

        The 40 beheaded babies were probably on there too until the IDF admitted that was a blatant lie as well.

        Aside from killing civilians almost every “war crime Hamas did” was a lie made up by the IDF.

        • @[email protected]
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          So the pictures of burnt babies, beheadings of hostages, and undressed dead girls do not convince you that Hamas actually committed atrocities?

          • @Linkerbaan
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            211 months ago

            Those burnt babies were from Apache helicopters firing hellfire missles at kibbutses. I wonder who has the hellfire missles.

            Hint it’s not Hamas.

            • @[email protected]
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              Yes, of course, first the hellfire missile rounds up the children, then it ties them up with wires and burns them. Of course that is what explains the results. It also undressed women and tied them before burning them alive. Common effect of hellfire missiles. happens all the time with that sort of ammunition.

              • @Linkerbaan
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                Do link the evidence of that please. From all the hours of Gopro footage the IDF were sadly unable to find Hamas killing even a single child but they did find many videos of Hamas intentionally sparing children. And there is zero evidence of rape with rape kits either.

                Is your evidence right next to the 40 beheaded babies?

        • @MeanEYE
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          Haha, hahahaahah. Right terrorist organization is made up, everything is made up just to trick little old you.

      • NoneOfUrBusiness
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        The site doesn’t work, but yes the hostages have all stated they were treated well after they were taken to the tunnels.

    • @avater
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      You can stop shilling for the hamas already.

      • @Linkerbaan
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        Which thing I stated wasn’t true? (hint everything I said is true and you know it)

    • @[email protected]
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      311 months ago

      The Palestinian prisoners are not hostages. Comparing random civilians, elderly, and babies to convicted terrorists is Hamas level propaganda.

      • NoneOfUrBusiness
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        You’re disgusting. Just to clear the rest up, there are 1200 who are in “administrative detention”, which is where they pick up a random Palestinian off the street and put them in prison. And in people who are charged, they’re charged by a military court with a 95% conviction rate where the most common charge is throwing stones.

        • @[email protected]
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          That is the same guilty rate as Israel’s internal convictions and is caused by police not bothering with anything that is not an easy win.

          The administrative detention also has judicial checks and limitations. Also, these are not random people picked off the streets, these are terrorists or would be terrorists where, for the most part, the evidence for detaining them is too sensitive from intelligence point of view to share in a trial.

        • @[email protected]
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          211 months ago

          You’re right, there are only security cameras of a few of these children running around stabbing civilians. I guess Al Jazeera forgot to mention that to you.

      • @Linkerbaan
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        111 months ago

        Kidnapped children without trial are not hostages?

        You can stop shilling for the Nazis now.

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          Detaining 15 year old children that stab civilians is also a valid way of describing the reality. Also, according to UN and Al Jazeera, a 17 year old self proclaimed Hamas fighter that tries to kill Israeli civilians with a AK is a child. Somehow you take it to mean that he is innocent.