The Virginia State Police investigator seemed puzzled about what the inmate was describing: “unbearable” conditions at a prison so cold that toilet water would freeze over and inmates were repeatedly treated for hypothermia.

“How do you get hypothermia in a prison?” the investigator asked. “You shouldn’t.”

The exchange, captured on video obtained by The Associated Press, took place during an investigation into the death of Charles Givens, a developmentally disabled inmate at the Marion Correctional Treatment Center, who records show was among those repeatedly hospitalized for hypothermia.

After a special grand jury considered the case but opted not to bring criminal charges, Givens’ sister sued in federal court, alleging her brother was subjected to routine mistreatment, including “cold-water torture,” before he was fatally beaten in 2022.

The lawsuit has raised broader questions about conditions at the southwest Virginia prison, which the grand jury described as “inhumane and deplorable.”

  • Flying Squid
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    67 months ago

    The difference between doing nothing and doing something?

    • @Coreidan
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      07 months ago

      Pretty much. “Doing something” in terms of voting has the same outcome as doing nothing.

      The only way we’ll have any real change is if we roll out the guillotines. Are you willing to go there?

      • Flying Squid
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        67 months ago

        Why are you asking me if I’m willing to when you clearly haven’t done so yourself?

        You should be asking yourself that question.

        • @Coreidan
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          -17 months ago

          So you won’t answer the question? I’ll take that as a no. You’re not willing.

          • Flying Squid
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            67 months ago

            No, I’m not willing to commit murder. And clearly neither are you or you’d have done it already. Don’t ask other people to be brave on your behalf. Go start this glorious revolution of yours and stop being an armchair Che Guevara.

            • @Coreidan
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              -47 months ago

              Just pointing out the hypocrisy. You’re quick to put everyone down and blame the American public thinking that voting will solve everything. Every candidate is a screaming dickhead.

              If you’re not willing to actually do anything then you should just stfu otherwise you sound like a hypocrite.

              I’ve been voting my entire life and have yet to see a candidate that will work for the American public.

              Listening to people like you is tiring and doesn’t get us anywhere.

              • Flying Squid
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                37 months ago

                So you are perfectly satisfied with how America is, right? Since you’re unwilling to start cutting off heads? And you never complain about anything, right? If I go through your comment history, I won’t find one complaint about things in the U.S.?

                • @Coreidan
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                  -27 months ago

                  Complain all you want but trying to convince me that voting is going to save us is a futile effort.

                  People like you just don’t understand how much of a strangle hold the media has on the public’s mind. You just don’t understand how much corporations control us.

                  • Flying Squid
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                    47 months ago

                    People like you just don’t understand how much of a strangle hold the media has on the public’s mind. You just don’t understand how much corporations control us.

                    So why aren’t you getting out the guillotine? I thought it makes you a hypocrite wanting to change these things but not being willing to cut heads off.

                    Once again, sounds like you want people to be brave on your behalf.

              • @[email protected]
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                17 months ago

                Hypocrisy: saying one thing and doing the opposite.

                “We should go vote and make a positive change” Proceeds to vote to try to make a positive change.

                “We should do a full on head cutting French revolution!” Complains on the internet about how people suck and doesn’t do a revolution.

                Hmm…

      • @[email protected]
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        17 months ago

        There’s some value in bringing some woodworking tools and lumber to city Hall and make yourself one as a performance piece