• @OccamsTeapot
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    26 months ago

    My comment, then someone says “are we pretending trump will be better?” In response, then this person says “yes.” If they’re not talking to me and are just talking generally about other people that do this in reply to my comment, pretty weird, but my point still stands.

    their actions are going to lead to more dead Palestinians than anything Biden has done.

    Uh huh. Who has been arming Israel again?

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      06 months ago

      If the choice you get to make is 30,000 dead civilians or a person who outright said Israel needs to “finish the job,” and you are campaigning against the lesser amount of deaths, you bear moral responsibility when total annihilation happens.

      • @OccamsTeapot
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        26 months ago

        So Biden sends the bombs.

        These people say “Stop sending bombs”

        And they are the ones you think will bear the responsibility if Trump wins and makes it worse? Not trump. Not Biden for not listening to his voters OR HIS CONSCIENCE. Not Netanyahu and co using the bombs. The people saying “stop doing that.” Jesus fucking christ

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          16 months ago

          You guys are the ones who made this election solely about Palestine, rightly or wrongly (I personally think probably rightly) and now we have to vote on that.

          Do we limit the amount of deaths and use diplomacy to save lives, or do we choose the person Netanyahu wants, the one who seeks to help him complete his goals of eradication.

          All people who are helping to ensure Trump wins over Biden is helping kill Palestinian children.

          I’m sorry, but the world has given us nothing but bad choices and we have to choose the least bad option. Failure to do so is moral cowardice.

          • @OccamsTeapot
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            36 months ago

            I’m sorry, but the world has given us nothing but bad choices and we have to choose the least bad option.

            In the voting booth, yes.

            Failure to do so is moral cowardice.

            Failure to criticise someone doing something which is obviously wrong is moral cowardice. You acknowledge it’s a bad choice and clearly don’t want Biden to be doing this, but yet can’t just criticise him based solely on his actions without reverting to the zero sum game of the election.

            I doubt anything will change but God damn this has to be a good reason to criticise a president, surely? Do you not realize how this is making America look to the rest of the world? To be the one standing beside the bully and insisting he’s not so bad while the rest of the world (and much of America) looks on in horror.

            You guys are the ones who made this election solely about Palestine, rightly or wrongly (I personally think probably rightly) and now we have to vote on that.

            I definitely don’t think it should be solely about this. I would still vote for him if I was American. But unfortunately what is happening is very serious and if you actually care I can see why it’s not something you can easily put aside.