Twig to UK [email protected]English • 4 months ago‘Change’: Starmer hopes simple slogan will chime with exasperated nationwww.theguardian.comexternal-linkmessage-square29fedilinkarrow-up124arrow-down10
arrow-up124arrow-down1external-link‘Change’: Starmer hopes simple slogan will chime with exasperated nationwww.theguardian.comTwig to UK [email protected]English • 4 months agomessage-square29fedilink
minus-square@esselllink11•4 months agoI hope this is down to them needing to have this ready weeks ago and not knowing when the election would be. As slogans go it’s about as inspiring as Starmer himself. Generic, non-commital and subject to change.
minus-square@esselllink5•4 months agoTrue, very different vibes! Tories have been nothing but changeable in recent years and that’s not been a good thing!
minus-square@[email protected]linkfedilink5•edit-24 months agoLabour are sort of arguing for a change to a stable government which is the most ambitious bit of political messaging I could possibly think of. Time will tell if sunak and the Tories are so hopeless it actually works
minus-squareTwigOPlinkfedilinkEnglish3•4 months agoFair point well made. I guess we’ll see how this particular campaign is received.
minus-square@[email protected]linkfedilink1•4 months agoIt just describes what he plans on saying he’s doing if elected, it’ll Change every other day.
minus-square@esselllink8•4 months agoI’ll take a pragmatic responsive PM over the lurching idealogues of recent years
minus-squareTwigOPlinkfedilinkEnglish5•4 months agoWell said. While he’s not perfect, I’d imagine Starmer will be significantly different to the Tories.
minus-square@esselllink6•4 months agoThe fact that he won’t be distracted by right wing extremists in his own party is a good start. Within the labour party he is the right wing extremist. And I don’t think he’s likely to be too damaged by attacks on the left much either, certainly not until after the honeymoon period.
minus-square@[email protected]linkfedilink1•4 months agoLabour seems to be shifting further and further Right, not sure how much better they’ll be than the Tories. But for what it’s worth, I totally agree.
minus-square@[email protected]linkfedilink1•4 months agoSo when Tories go back on promises it’s lying but when labour do it its reasonable pragmatism?
minus-square@[email protected]linkfedilink1•4 months agoMaybe I misunderstood but that seemed to be what you were suggesting
I hope this is down to them needing to have this ready weeks ago and not knowing when the election would be.
As slogans go it’s about as inspiring as Starmer himself.
Generic, non-commital and subject to change.
‘Hope’ worked for Obama
True, very different vibes!
Tories have been nothing but changeable in recent years and that’s not been a good thing!
Labour are sort of arguing for a change to a stable government which is the most ambitious bit of political messaging I could possibly think of.
Time will tell if sunak and the Tories are so hopeless it actually works
Fair point well made. I guess we’ll see how this particular campaign is received.
It just describes what he plans on saying he’s doing if elected, it’ll Change every other day.
I’ll take a pragmatic responsive PM over the lurching idealogues of recent years
Well said. While he’s not perfect, I’d imagine Starmer will be significantly different to the Tories.
The fact that he won’t be distracted by right wing extremists in his own party is a good start.
Within the labour party he is the right wing extremist.
And I don’t think he’s likely to be too damaged by attacks on the left much either, certainly not until after the honeymoon period.
Labour seems to be shifting further and further Right, not sure how much better they’ll be than the Tories. But for what it’s worth, I totally agree.
So when Tories go back on promises it’s lying but when labour do it its reasonable pragmatism?
Did I say all those things?
Maybe I misunderstood but that seemed to be what you were suggesting