• Jake Farm
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    -327 months ago

    Was the vietnam war a genocide? The US killed ~600,000 civilians during the Vietnam war.

    • @PugJesus
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      467 months ago

      If your point of comparison is the Vietnam War, you’ve already lost.

        • @[email protected]
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          7 months ago

          You drug it into this.

          To be clear, discussing the Vietnam war is just fine, and more than that, important. But this isnt that.

          Edit a distinct thread on such a topic is welcome and appropriate.

          • Jake Farm
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            37 months ago

            I brought is up because I am unsure where the line of genocide is especially since wars that involve the US tend to have loads of civilian deaths.

            • XIIIesq
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              57 months ago

              Over 100,000 civilians died in Iraq and Afghanistan during “the war on terror”.

              That’s worth it because of 9/11 tho /s

            • Maven (famous)
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              17 months ago

              The US does a lot of war crimes. They’ve just been historically more powerful than the people who prosecute war crimes.

              • @BluesF
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                17 months ago

                They also aren’t a member of many international legal bodies and thus do not consider themselves bound by international law. Frustratingly, they are basically right - international law is opt-in.

    • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin
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      457 months ago

      Yes, it pretty clearly was, the fact that they restricted operations to the south out of worry of a Chinese invasion meant that commanders on the ground literally began measuring mission progress entirely by how many Vietnamese people they’d killed in a given period.

    • @dustyData
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      187 months ago

      Gotta love the brain dead whataboutism.

    • @mlg
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      07 months ago

      My Lai massacre

        • @[email protected]
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          17 months ago

          Any nation that intentionally blockades food, medicine, and potable water to a population it considers inconvenient is a government internally committing genocide.

    • @windie
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      -37 months ago

      It’s not about the numbers, it’s about the intent.

      • @Linkerbaan
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        57 months ago

        Indeed and israel has very clearly expressed intent.

        Sbrenica had 8000 people killed and was deemed a Genocide. And the statements there were far less severe than the extreme genocide rhetoric from israel.

        • @windie
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          17 months ago

          Completely agree. That was what I tried to say.

    • @[email protected]
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      -47 months ago

      High civilian casualties means genocide. Duh. Hamas wants high civilian casualties. So that way they can make people call this a genocide. That gets people on their side. Hamas literally committed genocidal acts but the number of deaths was much less so people don’t care as much. Hamas was literally targeting Jewish people in general. Israel is targeting Hamas members not Palestinians. Unfortunately Hamas took the last 17 years building tunnels underneath civilians. So there are a lot of unfortunate civilian casualties trying to get to Hamas and its leaders. Israel should do better but I’m afraid it’s very difficult with the logistics of this fight. It’s a terrible situation all the way around.