@TheFonz I’m finding this conversation a bit puzzling.
You sort of sound like you want this discussion to cover all those tired Hasbara “talking points” and their common rebuttals on Americam discuasions or something, hence IsRaEl HaS A Right to DeFenD ItSelf.
This isn’t a game or a logic 101 essay though. It’s ordinary people from multiple countries discussing a humanitarian catastrophe that has killed over 37000 people.
Linkerbaan is lying. I’ve told him expressly several times on these boards that I am against the IDF. But of course none of that matters because this person can’t engage with the topic either in good faith.
Hmm. Have I defended the IDF, or have I been critical of flimsy arguments which enable the IDF to commit more atrocities? Hmm. I wonder which one it is…
I’ve clarified my position to you multiple times, Linkerbaan. I’m pro Palestine- it’s your rhetorical devices that cause more harm. Happy to explain if you don’t understand.
You have clarified your position as a staunch defender of the IDF’s actions very well the last 8 months and in this comment section.
At least be honest about your position.
Is the IDF counter-attack proportional or is it excessive compared to what Hamas is doing? I would say it’s absolutely excessive. How is that excess justified? I would urge you guys to put more thought into any of this discourse beyond “genocide; colonialism; apartheid; imperialism”. Please, for the love of god. Try. When you use cheap logic, all you do is give more fodder to IDF --and I’m not a fan of IDF.
Why are you lying? I’ve told you expressly many times I’m against the IDF. So now you have to lie? Says all I need to know about you guys. I find this very fascinating.
Hey @[email protected] : Linkerbaan called me a Zionist, which I find extremely offensive, especially after I’ve repeatedly told him I’m pro-palestine. I just wanted to make the record clear here in case there’s any confusion. I wonder what kind of warning Linkerbaan will get.
Yep, that’s exactly what I wrote. You got me bro. Thanks for the charitability. Appreciate it. If only there was another possible explanation…perhaps written in a post two comments above. Oh wait, that would involve actually reading what people write and engaging with their points. That’s too hard for Lemmy I suppose.
Because it’s a sound principle.
Genociding tens of thousands of people, half of whom are children, is not self defense.
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@TheFonz I’m finding this conversation a bit puzzling.
You sort of sound like you want this discussion to cover all those tired Hasbara “talking points” and their common rebuttals on Americam discuasions or something, hence IsRaEl HaS A Right to DeFenD ItSelf.
This isn’t a game or a logic 101 essay though. It’s ordinary people from multiple countries discussing a humanitarian catastrophe that has killed over 37000 people.
Fonz is a long term Zionist that has been heavily defending israel committing Genocide for the last 8 months
Zionism has just become so unpopular that online Zionists now pretend they don’t support the IDF but just "see the nuance’.
@Linkerbaan aah that makes sense, thanks for the explanation. I couldn’t work out what on earth they were getting at.
Linkerbaan is lying. I’ve told him expressly several times on these boards that I am against the IDF. But of course none of that matters because this person can’t engage with the topic either in good faith.
You have indeed several times expressed that sentiment in this comment section and then proceed to defend the actions of the IDF.
Hmm. Have I defended the IDF, or have I been critical of flimsy arguments which enable the IDF to commit more atrocities? Hmm. I wonder which one it is…
I’ve clarified my position to you multiple times, Linkerbaan. I’m pro Palestine- it’s your rhetorical devices that cause more harm. Happy to explain if you don’t understand.
You have clarified your position as a staunch defender of the IDF’s actions very well the last 8 months and in this comment section.
At least be honest about your position.
Genocide denial is pretty pathetic.
Why are you lying? I’ve told you expressly many times I’m against the IDF. So now you have to lie? Says all I need to know about you guys. I find this very fascinating.
Hey @[email protected] : Linkerbaan called me a Zionist, which I find extremely offensive, especially after I’ve repeatedly told him I’m pro-palestine. I just wanted to make the record clear here in case there’s any confusion. I wonder what kind of warning Linkerbaan will get.
There is a flagging system. Use it. Don’t whine. I shouldn’t have to tell you this.
Very fascinating indeed. Tell me more about how israel is not committing Genocide.
Yep, that’s exactly what I wrote. You got me bro. Thanks for the charitability. Appreciate it. If only there was another possible explanation…perhaps written in a post two comments above. Oh wait, that would involve actually reading what people write and engaging with their points. That’s too hard for Lemmy I suppose.
OP: “you guys repeat superficial platitudes”
Also OP: “what is IDF ought to do, when hamas launches rockets, while hiding behind civilians?”
It’s because you guys cannot even engage with that. That’s as far as we can get on this platform.
Then by all means, go to FB if you’re more familiar with that kind of communication
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