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    If we are talking about banking sites, and - say - we discuss the security measures needed on them, nobody would think to include phishing sites into the discussion, because it’s meaningless.

    Incorrect. Learn to recognize ‘spoofing’ and ‘phishing’

    was obviously referring to the businesses which run online casinos

    Incorrect

    OP was clearly talking about actual gambling businesses.

    Incorrect. OP clearly wrote “online casinos”.

    You clearly have a guilty conscious about the money you earned from gamblers. Or you are being paid for this shilling.

    The problem with online casinos is that they are associated with a huge number of scams.

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      Incorrect. Learn to recognize ‘spoofing’ and ‘phishing’

      Jesus… Let me spell it out even more clearly: if someone is creating a new standard for banking sites, they don’t expect those goddamn measures to apply to phishing websites, because they are not considered part of the industry. Nobody discussing the banking industry would consider phishing sites PART OF it. it’s relevant to discussing phishin FOR the industry, but it’s not a problem OF banking sites. Because “banking site” means inherently a legitimate banking site.

      Incorrect. OP clearly wrote “online casinos”.

      And online casinos don’t include fake online casinos.

      But ok, let’s clarify once and for all.

      Let’s pretend you actually believe your bs, and let’s make a distinction:

      • Online casinos = established businesses in the casino industry, operating with at least a license.
      • Fake casinos = scam websites that operate without a license and which spoof an online casino with the purpose of scamming users (in whatever way).

      To which ones do you think your initial answer applies:

      They run rigged games in predatory ways. They happily let organised crime launder money for a cut. They fight regulations designed to reduce problem gambling.

      ?

      Do you think that online casinos as defined above run rigged games? Do you think they help laundering money?

      At least I will give you an out and you don’t need to keep climbing mirrors.


      You clearly have a guilty conscious about the money you earned from gamblers. Or you are being paid for this shilling.

      No, I simply don’t like bullshit, and your arguments are full of it. I strongly dislike the gambling industry, but for reasons based on facts, not on what I heard in the beauty salon :) In fact, my whole point is that there are good, solid reasons to dislike gambling and online casinos. The bullshit you quoted is not part of it because it’s false.

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        if someone is creating a new standard for banking sites

        Not part of the discussion. You are straining pretty hard in your efforts to “win”.

        And online casinos don’t include fake online casinos.

        Yes, they do. The clue is in the name.

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          Not part of the discussion. You are straining pretty hard in your efforts to “win”.

          I am making an example to prove a point. The point is simple “industry” doesn’t contain the scammers who try to abuse it.

          Yes, they do. The clue is in the name.

          Genius take!

          Answer the question, though. I repost it for your own convenience. We clear out all the bullshit semantic you brought up, and go straight to the point:


          Let’s pretend you actually believe your bs, and let’s make a distinction:

          Online casinos = established businesses in the casino industry, operating with at least a license.
          Fake casinos = scam websites that operate without a license and which spoof an online casino with the purpose of scamming users (in whatever way).
          

          To which ones do you think your initial answer applies:

          They run rigged games in predatory ways. They happily let organised crime launder money for a cut. They fight regulations designed to reduce problem gambling.
          

          ?

          • Do you think that online casinos as defined above run rigged games?
          • Do you think they help laundering money?
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            The point is simple “industry” doesn’t contain the scammers who try to abuse it.

            It does. To illustrate this I linked to a bank website containing advice on combating phishing.

            Here’s the definition I’m happy with.

            Legitimate casinos = established businesses in the casino industry

            Fake casinos = scammers

            Online casinos = legitimate casinos + fake casinos

            Combined because users find it hard to tell the difference.

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              Answer the question, your definition doesn’t add much.

              To which ones does your initial answer apply? Both legitimate and fake casinos?

              It’s not a hard question.

              P.s. I bet you wouldn’t be able to show me a fake casino if I asked. That’s because they are not a common problem. You are overinflating it to make your absurd definition more reasonable. But let’s not get into this…

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                  So both legitimate and fake? In other words you believe that both legitimate and fake casinos rig games, both help laundering money and both fight against regulations?

                  It’s a simple question, show a tiny bit of good faith :)

                  P.s., have you read your own link?

                  The blacklisting reasons have to do with scammy customer support, lack of license, stealing money. They don’t even mention rigging games or laundering money, which is what you claimed :)

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                    Your definition of “legitimate casino” excludes any casinos that rig games.

                    All businesses with financial operations are exposed to money laundering to some degree.

                    Regulations increase costs to implement. Only “legitimate casinos” fight them.