blood thirsty imperialists… You’re our to get Afghans and Iraqis and Palestinians
Wow, am I? I never knew. I bet the Afghan I had up in my ass last week didn’t know that either and I’m not even kidding.
Calm. down.
You aren’t helping yourself nor your cause. I’d love to see Afghans have a better life but so far their tribal nature isn’t helping, they themselves continue to support warlords who in turn supports the Talibs who murder the fuck out of anyone who steps out of line. I’m very unsure how you get me into that equation, but I assure you that I have nothing but well wishes for them. I just wonder though, why aren’t you bitching about the Russians who first got Afghanistan into the mess that it continues to be today? You keep bitching about Americans, and me, but dude, Russia really fucked it over.
Iraq’s… Well there was Saddam Hussein who really was the asshole dictator who systematically murdered and oppressed Iraqis and Kurds, very nasty guy who murdered in the tens of thousands at least. I’m honestly unsure of life for Iraqis is better or worse now that he’s been executed, as that created a power vaccuum that is still being fought over.
Again has nothing to do with me I wish them well but now even the US isn’t involved I bthe mess that’s going on.
You seem to forget that a lotmof locals too are just in there to get to the top so they can be the next suppressor…
Palestinians, next up. Beyond tragic what’s happening there and they’ve been stepped on for decades now. Israel literally had been funding hamas to be able to continue to oppress Palestinians, fucked up to say the least. Again, nothing to do with me, but whatever.
I’m not out for their blood. What I am is realistic enough to know that a) it’s not all the US 's fault, and b) that Russia and China also have big hands in there, they’re just quieter about it.
All I’m saying is that if the US was gone tomorrow that Russia would put a boot so fat on Palestine, they’d kill them all, that is the Russian way. Fuck them all, men, wonen and children. I’m simply trying to say that shit could be much, much worse, and you make that into “you want brown people blooooooodd!”
You really ought to calm down. You should try to have a normal reasoned conversation, because this behaviour won’t get you anywhere, it’s counter productive
The US is directly responsible for slaughtering countless numbers of each and you support it doing so. That’s what the US military does.
I know your kind. You fancy yourself peace-loving because you’re polite about the slaughter, and conveniently the killing happens far away to people you’ve never met which makes it easy to ignore. You can’t possibly be racist or violent because you only support murdering people abroad, who don’t even register as people to you. The kinder, gentler machine gun hand. You hide your cruelty behind politeness and civility like a fucking vampire.
the Russians who first got Afghanistan into the mess that it continues to be today?
Wtf are you talking about? An invasion by a country that doesn’t even exist any more vs a 20 year long occupation that left hundreds of thousands dead for absolutely no benefit, and you expect me to care more about the former? Your jingoism is showing again.
But hey, as long as we’re talking history, I have a little question on your next point:
Well there was Saddam Hussein who really was the asshole dictator who systematically murdered and oppressed Iraqis and Kurds, very nasty guy who murdered in the tens of thousands at least.
Why did Saddam Hussein have so much power in the first place? Could it have anything to do with the fact that your buddies were covertly supplying him with arms in the 80’s? While he was in the process of gassing civilians with chemical weapons, I might add.
Again, in both cases, the US had decades to fix the damage it caused by arming Hussein and bin Laden. Instead they massacred and tortured innocent civilians, plundered the countries for all they were worth, and left them worse off than they’d been before (which is saying something considering how badly the US has fucked them over before).
a) it’s not all the US 's fault
Absolutely delusional. The US could stop everything that’s happening there with a phone call. Israel is nothing without the massive amounts of military support and funding from the US. I can’t tell whether you’re just saying something you know to be false for rhetorical purposes, or if you’ve really managed to reach that level of self-delusion.
Either way, stop bothering me. I believe I’ve made my feelings towards you and everything you stand for abundantly clear.
All you care about is tone. It’s easy for you to be calm because you don’t care. Because you believe all the comforting lies the media tells you without ever digging into the truth, or trying to see things from the perspective of the oppressed.
I’ve opened both my mind and my heart to understanding reality, and made an active effort to learn about these things and understand other perspectives. As a result, I have more historical knowledge than you. And I scream at you because I understand some small part of the pain and anger felt by people on the receiving end of your imperialism. On both counts, it’s because I understand the world better than you.
It’s funny that criticizing my tone is your only response to my comment. That comment was the first one I made to you that actually engaged with your arguments beyond just calling you out for what you are.
You liberals never want to have any kind of substantiative discussion.
When I was just screaming at you for being the bloodthirsty imperialist you are, you made actual arguments. When I refuted all those arguments, you retreated behind tone. Maybe I should go back to just screaming if I want you to formulate an actual response, or I should engage more substantively if I want to drive you off.
Wow, am I? I never knew. I bet the Afghan I had up in my ass last week didn’t know that either and I’m not even kidding.
Calm. down.
You aren’t helping yourself nor your cause. I’d love to see Afghans have a better life but so far their tribal nature isn’t helping, they themselves continue to support warlords who in turn supports the Talibs who murder the fuck out of anyone who steps out of line. I’m very unsure how you get me into that equation, but I assure you that I have nothing but well wishes for them. I just wonder though, why aren’t you bitching about the Russians who first got Afghanistan into the mess that it continues to be today? You keep bitching about Americans, and me, but dude, Russia really fucked it over.
Iraq’s… Well there was Saddam Hussein who really was the asshole dictator who systematically murdered and oppressed Iraqis and Kurds, very nasty guy who murdered in the tens of thousands at least. I’m honestly unsure of life for Iraqis is better or worse now that he’s been executed, as that created a power vaccuum that is still being fought over.
Again has nothing to do with me I wish them well but now even the US isn’t involved I bthe mess that’s going on.
You seem to forget that a lotmof locals too are just in there to get to the top so they can be the next suppressor…
Palestinians, next up. Beyond tragic what’s happening there and they’ve been stepped on for decades now. Israel literally had been funding hamas to be able to continue to oppress Palestinians, fucked up to say the least. Again, nothing to do with me, but whatever.
I’m not out for their blood. What I am is realistic enough to know that a) it’s not all the US 's fault, and b) that Russia and China also have big hands in there, they’re just quieter about it.
All I’m saying is that if the US was gone tomorrow that Russia would put a boot so fat on Palestine, they’d kill them all, that is the Russian way. Fuck them all, men, wonen and children. I’m simply trying to say that shit could be much, much worse, and you make that into “you want brown people blooooooodd!”
You really ought to calm down. You should try to have a normal reasoned conversation, because this behaviour won’t get you anywhere, it’s counter productive
The US is directly responsible for slaughtering countless numbers of each and you support it doing so. That’s what the US military does.
I know your kind. You fancy yourself peace-loving because you’re polite about the slaughter, and conveniently the killing happens far away to people you’ve never met which makes it easy to ignore. You can’t possibly be racist or violent because you only support murdering people abroad, who don’t even register as people to you. The kinder, gentler machine gun hand. You hide your cruelty behind politeness and civility like a fucking vampire.
Wtf are you talking about? An invasion by a country that doesn’t even exist any more vs a 20 year long occupation that left hundreds of thousands dead for absolutely no benefit, and you expect me to care more about the former? Your jingoism is showing again.
But hey, as long as we’re talking history, I have a little question on your next point:
Why did Saddam Hussein have so much power in the first place? Could it have anything to do with the fact that your buddies were covertly supplying him with arms in the 80’s? While he was in the process of gassing civilians with chemical weapons, I might add.
Again, in both cases, the US had decades to fix the damage it caused by arming Hussein and bin Laden. Instead they massacred and tortured innocent civilians, plundered the countries for all they were worth, and left them worse off than they’d been before (which is saying something considering how badly the US has fucked them over before).
Absolutely delusional. The US could stop everything that’s happening there with a phone call. Israel is nothing without the massive amounts of military support and funding from the US. I can’t tell whether you’re just saying something you know to be false for rhetorical purposes, or if you’ve really managed to reach that level of self-delusion.
Either way, stop bothering me. I believe I’ve made my feelings towards you and everything you stand for abundantly clear.
Stop the rage, buddy. You think you know everything and you keep showing you know nothing yet
All you care about is tone. It’s easy for you to be calm because you don’t care. Because you believe all the comforting lies the media tells you without ever digging into the truth, or trying to see things from the perspective of the oppressed.
I’ve opened both my mind and my heart to understanding reality, and made an active effort to learn about these things and understand other perspectives. As a result, I have more historical knowledge than you. And I scream at you because I understand some small part of the pain and anger felt by people on the receiving end of your imperialism. On both counts, it’s because I understand the world better than you.
It’s funny that criticizing my tone is your only response to my comment. That comment was the first one I made to you that actually engaged with your arguments beyond just calling you out for what you are.
You liberals never want to have any kind of substantiative discussion. When I was just screaming at you for being the bloodthirsty imperialist you are, you made actual arguments. When I refuted all those arguments, you retreated behind tone. Maybe I should go back to just screaming if I want you to formulate an actual response, or I should engage more substantively if I want to drive you off.