You were extolling the virtues of skepticism and critical thinking in another post, so the bar is set a little higher - did you do a count of fires at dealerships per brand, so we’re not comparing the number of fires of a specific brand in China to the number of fires of all brands across the US?
So you haven’t actually done the research, and you were trying to convince me that byd cars are a safe brand by sharing arbitrary news articles for dealership fires across all brands of cars in the USA? That’s not very convincing, lol.
I did a preliminary search of Buick, Volkswagen, etc. and there were less fires in the same time span for those brands.
That’s not what I was on about. I’m not pro any brand in particular.
It was a simple search to show fires happen at dealerships of other brands too. And as you’ve now found there is no reliable independent data on fires at dealerships by brand.
So, nobody can really state whether BYD has more or less dealership fires than any other brand.
I was saying that 10 fires in 3 years makes me nervous about byd cars, you suggested that that’s expected, but your evidence doesn’t support that at all.
Preliminary searches about the data points you brought up yielded less dealership fires per brand than BYD.
Additionally, you clearly believe that this is a good enough source of data such that you cited it yourself in your own arguments, it seems a little dishonest to say “search results were a good enough source of data when it supported my argument, but not when it goes against my argument - that’s when we need reliable independent datasets”
EDIT: Ah, I see now, you weren’t saying that byd is a safe brand, you were saying that I shouldn’t be nervous about 10 fires in 3 years because other places also have fires. That line of reasoning is a little silly - “yes, murder town has a potentially high count of murders per capita, but don’t worry about it because murders happen elsewhere!”
You were extolling the virtues of skepticism and critical thinking in another post, so the bar is set a little higher - did you do a count of fires at dealerships per brand, so we’re not comparing the number of fires of a specific brand in China to the number of fires of all brands across the US?
It would also be helpful to primarily look at the most common car brands sold in the us first.
Great idea!
Go for it!
So you haven’t actually done the research, and you were trying to convince me that byd cars are a safe brand by sharing arbitrary news articles for dealership fires across all brands of cars in the USA? That’s not very convincing, lol.
I did a preliminary search of Buick, Volkswagen, etc. and there were less fires in the same time span for those brands.
That’s not what I was on about. I’m not pro any brand in particular.
It was a simple search to show fires happen at dealerships of other brands too. And as you’ve now found there is no reliable independent data on fires at dealerships by brand.
So, nobody can really state whether BYD has more or less dealership fires than any other brand.
I was saying that 10 fires in 3 years makes me nervous about byd cars, you suggested that that’s expected, but your evidence doesn’t support that at all.
Preliminary searches about the data points you brought up yielded less dealership fires per brand than BYD.
Additionally, you clearly believe that this is a good enough source of data such that you cited it yourself in your own arguments, it seems a little dishonest to say “search results were a good enough source of data when it supported my argument, but not when it goes against my argument - that’s when we need reliable independent datasets”
EDIT: Ah, I see now, you weren’t saying that byd is a safe brand, you were saying that I shouldn’t be nervous about 10 fires in 3 years because other places also have fires. That line of reasoning is a little silly - “yes, murder town has a potentially high count of murders per capita, but don’t worry about it because murders happen elsewhere!”
And to add to your analogy a little, we are told the murder rate at murder town, but don’t know the per capita murder rate of any other towns.
So your argument isn’t actually
Because you don’t have the data to back it up, your argument is actually
?
I’m down with the latter.