• @[email protected]
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      I may be missing something here

      I would guess Larson wasn’t a fan, and thought that “new age” practices were mainly performative and non-productive, leading practitioners to get stuck in repetitive little circles, getting nothing done in the end.

      If so, it’s a pretty cynical take IMO, and certainly one of his more personal, brassy ones.

    • @samus12345
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      Yeah, this one has me totally Cow Tooled. Anyone have an explanation of the joke?

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      I think specifically “new age” here is referring to water-divenation, this is where some person claiming to be able to detect water gets a divining rod, which is often just two sticks and claims the sticks can show them where to dig a well and hit water (you can look up videos of it on YouTube). They often walk on strange paths, or stagger around and around fields in this process.

      So I guess these guys are doing something similar with construction related tasks.

      EDIT: I’ve seen it suggested elsewhere that Gary Larson was particularly annoyed with New Age music, and found it repetitive:

      https://i.imgur.com/X1Hxm.jpeg

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        1. They are very specifically walking in circles, not staggering around randomly
        2. Dowsing is not a New Age thing at all, there was a man in my grandfather’s village that did it and the practice is a lot older than that
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          Wicca is also linked to very old practices and considered new age, as is tarot, and the zodiac. New Age doesn’t mean new, it’s a polite way to say hippie dippy unscientific bullcrap that was revived by new people in the 60s whom had no traditional connection to it.

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            I mean, if you bend over backwards, sure. But the idea that Gary Larson would expect readers in 1993 to associate the phrase “New Age construction workers” with dowsing practices – instead of actually using the term “construction workers dowsing”, or something – seems unreasonable. Plus it’s not funny at all.

            Edit: just for reference, the word “dowsing” does not appear even once in this very long wikipedia article about New Age.

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              The shape of a dowsing stick is like wheel barrow handles:

              https://appleofgodseye.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/dowsing_21.jpg?w=584

              (Note how new age that image from google looks, it’s from a book cover about dowsing)

              They all have wheel barrows, because they’re all dowsing.

              Dowsing is often done on a specific property, resulting in a circling of the property until the sticks point downwards.

              I don’t see an alternative explanation for the characteristics of the cartoon.

              Why do you think they all have wheel barrows?


              EDIT: Here’s a Smithsonian Magazine article lamenting that dowsing was being used by “urban New Agers” on things other than finding water: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/urban-new-agers-have-taken-over-the-art-of-dowsing-1-38424068/

              That article is from 1996, three years after the cartoon, yet is based on the same premise: new age types, using dowsing for other things.

              I think my initial interpretation has now been proven correct.

              • kronisk
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                I think my initial interpretation has now been proven correct.

                Well, I certainly disagree, but I doubt we can find any common ground here. You seem content with any tenuous connection between concepts to fit your interpretation.

                I don’t see an alternative explanation for the characteristics of the cartoon.

                It’s definitely cryptic. I’ve suggested that it’s a reference to crop circles elsewhere in this thread, which is still the best interpretation I could find even if that’s not particularly satisfactory either.

                In 1991, Doug Bower and Dave Chorley took credit for creating a lot of crop circles in Britain, using ropes and planks. It was a well known story and a cultural meme, even if people didn’t know about Doug & Dave specifically they knew that the crop circles that New Agers believed were messages from aliens actually were created by pranksters. The construction workers are walking around in circles so that the tracks from the wheelbarrows create…mud circles, I guess.

                But as I said, this interpretation doesn’t feel satisfactory either, it’s just the best one yet. I’d love to hear a better idea.

              • @DarkCloud
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                Also by the way Dowsing is bunkem, practicioners are just drifting to the lowest parts of the property then making their best guesses, or in the case of using metal dowsing rods they’re allowing the idiomotor effect (aka the trembling of their hands) to trigger the rods into forming an X shape.

                That said, if ritualizing a skill set works for them, then it works for them. I’m just saying the beliefs attached to it aren’t explainatory. Having dug wells before (experience), and having your subconscious processes and feet involved in the process (physical and mental feedback) is what’s actually pulling the trick off.

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                  Also, most places have groundwater, you don’t need a dowsing rod to find it, just a shovel.

        • @[email protected]
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          For real, I reckon as long as there have been wells, there have been people claiming to be able to detect water underground.

            • Tar_Alcaran
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              And, amusingly, “just guessing” probably has outcomes not all that different from “Looking at the crappy scribbled map from whoever said ‘not it’ the slowest somewhere in 1964”

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              You’d be surprised how close you can get with it. I’ll use my locator first and foremost, but every now and again some areas can be stubborn and two pieces of 12awg copper has found what the locator had issues with. I would never use a machine where we doused, only hand dig, but it has come in handy.

            • @[email protected]
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              Haha I was 2, so yeah.

              I’ve never tried finding water with it, only buried electric lines and pipes. Apparently it was popular with gold miners.

      • @A_Union_of_Kobolds
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        I was thinking it was a crystal-dangling thing. Know how they put one on a string and let it swing?

          • @123nope567
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            Those New Age kids and their circle pits

        • @DarkCloud
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          I was thinking it was a crystal-dangling thing. Know how they put one on a string and let it swing?

          Seems plausible, maybe the rocky components of concrete aggregate are causing the circling.

    • @NotAFakeHumanoid
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      Maybe it’s meaning that the construction workers are just going around in circles and not getting anything really done?

    • @[email protected]
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      Me too. Damned if I can remember what people associated with “new age” in 1993 other then crystals and Enya.

    • @Windex007
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      They all have a wheelbarrow

    • kronisk
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      No one seems to get this one, at least on the internet. The most likely interpretation I could find anywhere is that he’s referencing crop circles. Which kinda works, but also not…I’m not sure that’s it either.