cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/16149785

Cross-posting here for more opinions.

Gentlemen, just for context, I usually use Linux. I have been a user of Debian, Ubuntu, and Fedora for a few years.

Recently, I acquired a decent graphics card (GeForce RTX 4070) and decided to uninstall my Windows and install Linux.

I saw that Pop!_OS already has an image with everything pre-configured for Nvidia. Is this pre-configuration worth it, are the games more stable on this distribution, or is it the same as manually installing Nvidia’s proprietary drivers on Manjaro?

  • @pathief
    9•7 months ago

    It’s not nonsense, just concerns that you don’t seem to have. Which is fine, really. If Manjaro is perfect for you, keep using it. No judging here.

    I personally don’t like Manjaro holding out on package updates, Arch stable branch is more than good enough for me. Everything else can be easily installed if you want to. Therefore, there’s really no reason for me personally to recommend Manjaro.

    • lemmyvoreEnglish
      -5•7 months ago

      It’s not nonsense, just concerns that you don’t seem to have.

      There is not one pertinent criticism in there. It’s all meaningless drivel presented as legit concerns.

      Which one is a concern you share?

      I personally don’t like Manjaro holding out on package updates

      Then you don’t use it and that’s fine. The whole point of Manjaro is to mitigate the bleeding edge risk. There’s tons of people who see value in that. Not every distro has to do the exact same thing Arch does. There is something of value in every Arch-derived distro.

      • @pathiefEnglish
        11•7 months ago

        Which one is a concern you share?

        My main concern is trust. How can I trust that the Manjaro team is competent when they can’t keep up with something as simple as certificates. You say they helped the AUR but they actually DDOS’d it several times due to problems in pamac the software store they developed. By using Manjaro, you are saying that you trust the Manjaro team more than the Arch team, since you are using their repositories. Their actions do not inspire trust on me.

        Arch actually has an unstable branch, that is “bleeding edge”. Most people run Arch on the stable branch, which is perfectly fine. You can run into problems, but so far I have never encountered any. Holding packages for “stability” is a neat idea but if the Firefox and Arch team deemed the new browser version to be stable, that’s good enough for me. I don’t see the Manjaro devs as having more competence to judge such things than the Arch community and the software devs.

        This is a pointless discussion anyway, I’m not changing my mind and neither are you but all least now you know where I’m coming from. Cheers.

        • lemmyvoreEnglish
          0•7 months ago

          Every single large enough distro (and any organization) has at some point forgot to renew a certificate. How were you impacted by the expiration?

          You say they helped the AUR but they actually DDOS’d it several times due to problems in pamac the software store they developed.

          The AUR was not originally designed to whitstand any meaningful traffic. What you call “DDOS” was simply the AUR being used by an actually popular distro, where enabling the AUR is a simple UI toggle, whose developers never imagined that the AUR doesn’t have any traffic mitigation methods.

          So Manjaro went out of its way to look for contributors to sponsor an AUR CDN and several caching layers, improving things for everybody.

          The second “DDOS” happened after Manjaro implemented all of the above so it couldn’t have come from Manjaro machines. All the “proof” is that whoever hit the AUR used a “pamac” user agent… which anybody can do.

          I don’t see the Manjaro devs as having more competence to judge such things than the Arch community and the software devs.

          Manjaro’s extra testing and vetting of Arch “stable” packages has avoided several problems so far.

          This is a pointless discussion anyway, I’m not changing my mind and neither are you but all least now you know where I’m coming from. Cheers.

          Yes well the difference is that I’ve used both and can explain their pros and cons and why one suits me better. I don’t just read a page called “archno” and then parrot it.