I know evolution is governed by chance and it is random but does it make sense to “ruin” sleep if there’s light? I mean normally, outside, you never have pure darkness, there are the moon and stars even at night. In certain zones of the Earth we also have long periods of no sunshine and long periods of only sunshine.

I don’t know if my question is clear enough but I hope so.

Bonus question: are animals subject to the same contribution of light or lack of it to the quality of sleep?

  • Bleeping Lobster
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    16 months ago

    Thanks, I do suspect I have delayed phase sleep disorder. It’s good to know I’m not alone. Do you have any coping strategies?

    My coping strategy is ‘modafinil to keep me from not being a zombie when particularly sleep deprived’, and ‘zopiclone for if I have been up longer than I should and it’s early enough to push me back into normal sleep pattern’. But of course I’m very wary about doing that more than twice in a row, so it’s never enough to establish ‘normality’.

    • @Dasus
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      16 months ago

      I don’t, unfortunately.

      I’m a shell of a human, haven’t been properly employed for some years, never managed a “normal” schedule or any kind of routine really. I used to have a shift job, but then that became impossible to do as well. In the army I got myself a role that allowed me to shift my personal schedules quite a bit.

      But yeah, no, it has ruined my life and ever since I told tve doctors I tried weed as a coping strategy (for sleeping and eating, it’s good), I can’t really get any help from the public doctors, since I live in such a backwards country that weed is still comparable to doing iv-opiates basically.

      I take melatonin and zolpidem. Melatonin around midnight so it would always be the same but ambien when I go to bed.

      Doesn’t really help.

      If I lived ina country with less social secvurity, like the US, I probably would’ve ended up on the streets several years ago. I’d probably have killed myself or some other people by this point.

      Now I’m just a wreck of a person waiting of some moronic bureaucratic bullshit while everyone else gets to have a life and I don’t.

      Tbf mine might be “non-24 and not just a delayed sleep-phase”, but despite me now having actual sleep data from more than 6 months, I can’t even get the sleep studies place to accept my doctors referral there. Makes me so fking angry I’m gonna have a seizure again

      • Bleeping Lobster
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        16 months ago

        I’m so, so sorry to hear this.

        I feel really lucky that I get some government support because I have autism / bipolar. It’s not much, but the specific benefit I receive also allows me to do some work… and I’m also very lucky to be self employed in a field I enjoy (writing music). So I’m certainly not rich or even that comfortable, but it does allow me to morph my days and nights to suit my unnatural rhythms.

        One thing I find about lack of sleep… it makes me really emotional, grumpy, increases likelihood of a depressive state. For me, it’s SO important to almost literally inject happiness. If we have a condition that takes away our happiness, it’s really crucial to create happiness in any way possible. Binge funny TV shows, go for a walk, watch some standup comedy, call a friend (not at 2am unless they’re also a night owl haha), make some art (doesn’t matter if you’re good at it), try learning a new skill, play a game, join a volunteering group. Those are my go-to activities, probably different for you.

        Also, and I know it’ll sound trite, but I got into a couple of things during lockdown that made a big difference to my overall happiness; Buddhist and Stoic philosophy. I’m not a Buddhist, probably never will be. I definitely have a long way to go in applying Stoic principles. But they have really improved my life. Meditation is very hard at first but incredibly beneficial. If I could recommend a couple of books (one is an audiobook and for me was more transformative than Buddhist principles)… if you’ve never used Audible, you can sign up for a month trial and keep the audiobook you select, no charge if you cancel within 28 days.

        1. Derren Brown - Happy (not sure if you’re familiar with this guy, he’s a legit mind wizard, almost terrifyingly intelligent and has a long career as a ‘mentalist’ aka psychological magic)
        2. Thich Nhat Thanh - The Heart Of The Buddha’s Teachings