Yea, but I’d argue one movie out of 20+ is only as good as the dumb throwaway lines like, “Hey! We shouldn’t fight here!” then proceeds to do nothing to move the fight…
Was that civil war? Because I thought that movie was terrible, Captain America’s position was so dumb as portrayed in the movie. Maybe it made more sense in the comics or something but civil war is what made me stop watching MCU.
Stark argued that they needed to be accountable to the public, and Captain America argued that they couldn’t be under “government control” (then what the hell is SHIELD lol). It seemed like an incredibly weak argument immediately following Age of Ultron, and very similar to proto-fascist “strongman” rhetoric.
I think the point was more that he didn’t want the government to use them as a hit squad or stop them from going where they’re needed. Shield was operating more a support organization than controlling them.
That was Captains pov, but Stark pointed out that it wasn’t really working. This is immediately after Ultron, remember? And if it was in the real world, I wouldn’t want those doofuses making unilateral decisions that affected the entire world without being accountable to anyone.
To their defense, the MCU kind of made a whole movie addressing exactly that, back when it was still really good
Yea, but I’d argue one movie out of 20+ is only as good as the dumb throwaway lines like, “Hey! We shouldn’t fight here!” then proceeds to do nothing to move the fight…
Was that civil war? Because I thought that movie was terrible, Captain America’s position was so dumb as portrayed in the movie. Maybe it made more sense in the comics or something but civil war is what made me stop watching MCU.
Wasn’t his position basically they didn’t want to be under government control? Didn’t seem so stupid to me but it’s been a while since I watched it.
Stark argued that they needed to be accountable to the public, and Captain America argued that they couldn’t be under “government control” (then what the hell is SHIELD lol). It seemed like an incredibly weak argument immediately following Age of Ultron, and very similar to proto-fascist “strongman” rhetoric.
I think the point was more that he didn’t want the government to use them as a hit squad or stop them from going where they’re needed. Shield was operating more a support organization than controlling them.
That was Captains pov, but Stark pointed out that it wasn’t really working. This is immediately after Ultron, remember? And if it was in the real world, I wouldn’t want those doofuses making unilateral decisions that affected the entire world without being accountable to anyone.
I think it was. The fumbled it a bit, but at least they kinda went in that direction.