it depends on the game imo. in the end so what it takes to enjoy it it’s your free time. but it’s also easy to remove the enjoyment entirely, and at some point you are better off just modding what you want in.

Nethacks a good example of that. permadeath is pretty key to the way the game was designed. restoring a backup save file does help when youre starting out but then why not just enable explorer mode and keep going?

Or if you’re reloading saves in bg3 every time the dice rolls are bad… why not just get a mod to do infinite rerolls or always roll perfectly?