So as I’ve been working on adding additional sheets to explain tagging and add more details about Series/Timelines/Storylines. You can see the first of those now, and the others will be pretty similar. New Series/Timelines/Stroylines should be added to their respective sheets and then they will automatically be added as options to the dropdowns
I also added a little extra conditional formatting to highlight missing data
Discussion from today's comic
I was originally planning to include the occasional non-comic in the sheet too, co-opting the Series label to add a “Non-comic” option. But the Rain piece from the other day kinda messes that up by being both non-comic and part of an official series. The other tags are obviously also applicable. Maybe a new column just as a “non-comic?” checkbox? Or should we just leave mentioning that to the Synopsis? I’m leaning towards the checkbox
Also how should we tag alternate versions of the characters. Adding a Beta!Luz/Lucia column would be easy, but that’s a slippery slope leading to why not Witch!Luz and then Human! versions of everyone else for WAH, which is obviously way too much. And a simple dropdown to toggle variants wont work because of that one comic that I cant find where Luz and Lucia had to work together to stop a cross-dimensional demon
WAH Witch!Luz is based on Beta!Luz, so maybe only add a set of Beta! options and we don’t consider if theyre witch or human? Obviously this is just for tagging and any more specifics can be added in Synopsis if needed
Lastly there’s also the question of standardizing phrasing between i.e. Beta!Luz vs Lucia. Not all alternate versions of characters have names like Lucia (and those arent MM cannon anyway), so the “Variant!Name” format is the obvious choice. Hey I like when these questions are easy for once! lol
Hi there! Sorry if I haven’t worked on the project for some time, work got in the way and things got a bit hectic on my side of the screen.
Maybe a new column just as a “non-comic?” checkbox? Or should we just leave mentioning that to the Synopsis? I’m leaning towards the checkbox
I agree with the non-comic checkbox, it’s an elegant way to tackle the problem. Not sure about tagging Rain as non-comic, though. I would use non-comic exclusively for art pieces that are not related to any storyline, to avoid confusion or inconsistent tagging. What do you think?
Also how should we tag alternate versions of the characters.
Ok, this one’s tricky, and I’ve also been thinking about it for another reason: the further we get from the finale, the more non-canon characters/characters with a non-canonical personality make an appearance. This is going to get messy and there’s little we can do about it other than keeping tagging it the way we have done so far.
For this reason, I think that having a different set of checkboxes for beta/alternate characters would just add extra bloat to an already pretty in-depth document, and the inconsistencies that you mentioned further exacerbate the problem. In my opinion, a combination of the character tag + the Series tag or the “alternate timeline” tag already cover this eventuality without the need to resort to a specific single tag. For example, if a person wants to look for all the WAH!Luz appearances, they will look for Luz+WAH or Luz+Alternate Timeline tags.
Same for the alternate names: I think that canon name tag + series tag/alternate timeline tag already covers this eventuality without the need for a “Lucia” or a “WAH!Gus” tag. But If you think it’s needed, I’ll be happy to comply.
Sorry if I haven’t worked on the project for some time, work got in the way and things got a bit hectic on my side of the screen.
Oh no worries, I’d be lying if I said I made 17 days of progress between those messages, or even just 7, or really anything more than 2 days lol.
I agree with the non-comic checkbox, it’s an elegant way to tackle the problem
Done. I also added a checkbox for unofficial title since it’s hard to find official titles for pre-Reddit comics (if they were even named at all? the only other page i know with titles is his XTwitterNitter page and I am not scrolling back 3 years to find out)
Not sure about tagging Rain as non-comic, though. I would use non-comic exclusively for art pieces that are not related to any storyline, to avoid confusion or inconsistent tagging. What do you think?
I’m still leaning yes. A separate checkbox means they aren’t mutually exclusive so we can have both WAH and non-comic
the more non-canon characters/characters with a non-canonical personality make an appearance
I think this one’s fairly simple: we’re archiving MoringMark comics, not The Owl House comics. The official canon is obviously a good start, but ultimately we’re tagging by his fanon lore
I think that having a different set of checkboxes for beta/alternate characters would just add extra bloat to an already pretty in-depth document, and the inconsistencies that you mentioned further exacerbate the problem. In my opinion, a combination of the character tag + the Series tag or the “alternate timeline” tag already cover this eventuality without the need to resort to a specific single tag. For example, if a person wants to look for all the WAH!Luz appearances, they will look for Luz+WAH or Luz+Alternate Timeline tags.
Same for the alternate names: I think that canon name tag + series tag/alternate timeline tag already covers this eventuality without the need for a “Lucia” or a “WAH!Gus” tag.
That’s actually more-or-less the same thing I was trying to say. Sorry if that wasn’t clear originally
I was only thinking of separate options for the Beta! designs, since they are common enough and not mutually exclusive with the original versions. Witch!Luz/WAH!Gus/etc yeah just look for (Beta!)Luz and the WAH series. No need for a new set of options for every possible combination when it’s already clearly implied by the rest of the tagging
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So as I’ve been working on adding additional sheets to explain tagging and add more details about Series/Timelines/Storylines. You can see the first of those now, and the others will be pretty similar. New Series/Timelines/Stroylines should be added to their respective sheets and then they will automatically be added as options to the dropdowns
I also added a little extra conditional formatting to highlight missing data
Discussion from today's comic
I was originally planning to include the occasional non-comic in the sheet too, co-opting the Series label to add a “Non-comic” option. But the Rain piece from the other day kinda messes that up by being both non-comic and part of an official series. The other tags are obviously also applicable. Maybe a new column just as a “non-comic?” checkbox? Or should we just leave mentioning that to the Synopsis? I’m leaning towards the checkbox
Also how should we tag alternate versions of the characters. Adding a Beta!Luz/Lucia column would be easy, but that’s a slippery slope leading to why not Witch!Luz and then Human! versions of everyone else for WAH, which is obviously way too much. And a simple dropdown to toggle variants wont work because of that one comic that I cant find where Luz and Lucia had to work together to stop a cross-dimensional demon
WAH Witch!Luz is based on Beta!Luz, so maybe only add a set of Beta! options and we don’t consider if theyre witch or human? Obviously this is just for tagging and any more specifics can be added in Synopsis if needed
Lastly there’s also the question of standardizing phrasing between i.e. Beta!Luz vs Lucia. Not all alternate versions of characters have names like Lucia (and those arent MM cannon anyway), so the “Variant!Name” format is the obvious choice. Hey I like when these questions are easy for once! lol
Hi there! Sorry if I haven’t worked on the project for some time, work got in the way and things got a bit hectic on my side of the screen.
I agree with the non-comic checkbox, it’s an elegant way to tackle the problem. Not sure about tagging Rain as non-comic, though. I would use non-comic exclusively for art pieces that are not related to any storyline, to avoid confusion or inconsistent tagging. What do you think?
Ok, this one’s tricky, and I’ve also been thinking about it for another reason: the further we get from the finale, the more non-canon characters/characters with a non-canonical personality make an appearance. This is going to get messy and there’s little we can do about it other than keeping tagging it the way we have done so far.
For this reason, I think that having a different set of checkboxes for beta/alternate characters would just add extra bloat to an already pretty in-depth document, and the inconsistencies that you mentioned further exacerbate the problem. In my opinion, a combination of the character tag + the Series tag or the “alternate timeline” tag already cover this eventuality without the need to resort to a specific single tag. For example, if a person wants to look for all the WAH!Luz appearances, they will look for Luz+WAH or Luz+Alternate Timeline tags.
Same for the alternate names: I think that canon name tag + series tag/alternate timeline tag already covers this eventuality without the need for a “Lucia” or a “WAH!Gus” tag. But If you think it’s needed, I’ll be happy to comply.
Oh no worries, I’d be lying if I said I made 17 days of progress between those messages, or even just 7, or really anything more than 2 days lol.
Done. I also added a checkbox for unofficial title since it’s hard to find official titles for pre-Reddit comics (if they were even named at all? the only other page i know with titles is his
XTwitterNitter page and I am not scrolling back 3 years to find out)I’m still leaning yes. A separate checkbox means they aren’t mutually exclusive so we can have both WAH and non-comic
I think this one’s fairly simple: we’re archiving MoringMark comics, not The Owl House comics. The official canon is obviously a good start, but ultimately we’re tagging by his fanon lore
That’s actually more-or-less the same thing I was trying to say. Sorry if that wasn’t clear originally
I was only thinking of separate options for the Beta! designs, since they are common enough and not mutually exclusive with the original versions. Witch!Luz/WAH!Gus/etc yeah just look for (Beta!)Luz and the WAH series. No need for a new set of options for every possible combination when it’s already clearly implied by the rest of the tagging