• Flying SquidM
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    36 months ago

    Let me put it this way- large chunks of The Odyssey are Odysseus being caught in a big storm at sea. So you would think the U.S. military would have heard about something that’s been known since the bronze age.

    • @Wrench
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      36 months ago

      It’s almost like they had to make compromises because their options were limited by materials, time, and access to the site.

      • @Linkerbaan
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        It’s almost like Biden should have forced israel to let in aid through the land crossing like the ICJ ruling required israel to do.

      • @AEsheron
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        Exactly, it was (very relatively) cheap and quick. And they figured when, not if, it breaks, it will be again quick to repair. And it is interesting tech that could be useful down the line that they may figure is worth the cost in training alone.

        • @Zehzin
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          The piece of shit cost $230 million and lasted 10 days

          • @Wrench
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            -26 months ago

            Modular military engineering materials are both obscenely expensive, and temporary. They are meant as a bandaid to quickly solve transportation problems to enable logistics.

            Also, being modular, they can be replaced easily and quickly.

            If you want a hardy lifetime dock, you’re going to need months to years under ideal circumstances. And then Isreal could “accidentally” blow it up with a “rogue” strike, and there would be no option but to scrap the whole thing. Because most permanent docks aren’t meant to handle military strikes.

            But yeah, let’s just ignore that the building constraints around this are just about the worst case imaginable. Let’s just keep whining about how a solution isn’t perfect and therefore worthless like all the other Leftist comments on Lemmy

            • Flying SquidM
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              86 months ago

              They barely delivered any aid. This was a boondoggle.

              It’s amazing the military ineptness people excuse.

              • @[email protected]
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                46 months ago

                It’s not ineptitude. Their hands are tied by the government from providing aid in any effective way.

                • Flying SquidM
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                  -16 months ago

                  Are you seriously saying that the U.S. has no leverage over the Israeli government?

              • @Wrench
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                -46 months ago

                What’s your solution, then? Overnight peace in the middle east?

                • Flying SquidM
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                  56 months ago

                  I’d say the U.S. not offering Israel any more support until they open the borders to aid would go a long way to solving things.

                  But apparently that’s going way beyond the pale.

                  • @Wrench
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                    -56 months ago

                    And how exactly will that put food in the hands of the starving Palestinians?

                    Again with the “if it’s not perfect, it’s not worth doing” bullshit I’m so tired of hearing about this conflict.

            • @Fungah
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              16 months ago

              The fuck does someone’s political alignment have to do with this shit?

              • @Wrench
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                16 months ago

                The tendency to make Perfect the enemy of Good.

                It’s a tired theme here on Lemmy, particularly WRT Gaza, and particularly in criticism of Biden’s policy towards Isreal.

            • @[email protected]
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              06 months ago

              We don’t want a hardy lifetime dock. We want Israel to stop committing genocide and to allow aid by land and air routes.

              • @Wrench
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                26 months ago

                Ok. And how has that negotiation been going?

                I prefer to actually do what can be done in the short term, while we continue to work on long term solutions in tandem. Not just put all your eggs in the long term basket, and let the Palestinians starve if it takes too long, or doesn’t happen at all.

                • @[email protected]
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                  16 months ago

                  Aid by land and air can be done in the short term, a lot faster then building a dock and shipping by sea. The only thing stopping that is a pure policy decision by Israel.

                  Personally, I think the US should continue with aid airdrops. Hell, I think they should load up trucks and roll through Rafah or any available crossing in Gaza.

            • @Zehzin
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              And then Isreal could “accidentally” blow it up with a “rogue” strike

              Yeah maybe they should stop giving rockets to the rogue state that keeps blowing up their shit.

              Let’s just keep whining about how a solution isn’t perfect

              The only thing this is a solution for is to the problem of “what’s a good way to pretend we’re humanitarians while genociding the people we’re pretending we care about”, so yeah, it’s worthless if you don’t want that to happen.