You want stuff like the Empire being the direct consequence of the “I’m not here to free slaves” policy? Or of the “the monsters that rule here are our allies” one?
Or you want… I dunno… their leader to keep repeating “people, this is wrong, we must think about some other way” the entire time, while everybody ignores him? Or maybe you want the movies to go into the Republic policy-making and show that the Jedi are absolutely working for The Bad Guy, know they are wrong, and keep doing it anyway because they want status-quo?
It took one episode of tales of the Jedi to really show how the Jedi had become a tool of evil, whatever their own intentions. They built a system of rigid rules and absolute loyalty to a group that weren’t beholden to their rules or morals. So when that group started getting corrupted, the Jedi helped enforce that corruption.
If Palpatine was doing everything he was but just wasn’t Sith, I doubt the Jedi would have even tried to do anything about him. Political power, just like the force, can be abused. Good people don’t abstain from power and obey it unquestionably. They question it and its motives constantly and fight it when it conflicts with what they believe in good faith. And occasionally break it when it becomes irredeemable.
Which is something I don’t like about the new Star Wars: it’s pretty hierarchical and I can think of several times where orders conflict with morals and each case seems to have the “lesson” that authority is the one in the right, or at least never challenges authority being upset about being disobeyed.
Nah, doesn’t have to be such straight forward tit for tat crap. That’s far less interesting.
For an example, they really dropped the ball in the Obi-Wan show. They could’ve made it a great story about how he basically HAD to become a Grey Jedi. Explore how the “goodie two shoes” aspect of the Jedi clashes with the real world. Put Obi-Wan through a ton of real-world situations where he HAS to go against the Jedi code to get any kind of positive result.
SHOW how the Jedi are naive, don’t just declare it so and throw a supervillain at them.
You want stuff like the Empire being the direct consequence of the “I’m not here to free slaves” policy? Or of the “the monsters that rule here are our allies” one?
Or you want… I dunno… their leader to keep repeating “people, this is wrong, we must think about some other way” the entire time, while everybody ignores him? Or maybe you want the movies to go into the Republic policy-making and show that the Jedi are absolutely working for The Bad Guy, know they are wrong, and keep doing it anyway because they want status-quo?
It took one episode of tales of the Jedi to really show how the Jedi had become a tool of evil, whatever their own intentions. They built a system of rigid rules and absolute loyalty to a group that weren’t beholden to their rules or morals. So when that group started getting corrupted, the Jedi helped enforce that corruption.
If Palpatine was doing everything he was but just wasn’t Sith, I doubt the Jedi would have even tried to do anything about him. Political power, just like the force, can be abused. Good people don’t abstain from power and obey it unquestionably. They question it and its motives constantly and fight it when it conflicts with what they believe in good faith. And occasionally break it when it becomes irredeemable.
Which is something I don’t like about the new Star Wars: it’s pretty hierarchical and I can think of several times where orders conflict with morals and each case seems to have the “lesson” that authority is the one in the right, or at least never challenges authority being upset about being disobeyed.
Is this about Andor? Because I can’t fit it in anything else, but Andor is not about the Rebellion being good.
No, I haven’t seen that one yet. The main examples I was thinking of were in Ahsoka and Ep 8.
Oh, fair point.
Nah, doesn’t have to be such straight forward tit for tat crap. That’s far less interesting.
For an example, they really dropped the ball in the Obi-Wan show. They could’ve made it a great story about how he basically HAD to become a Grey Jedi. Explore how the “goodie two shoes” aspect of the Jedi clashes with the real world. Put Obi-Wan through a ton of real-world situations where he HAS to go against the Jedi code to get any kind of positive result.
SHOW how the Jedi are naive, don’t just declare it so and throw a supervillain at them.