• @Sterile_Technique
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    774 months ago

    I can’t afford an EV, but if I was in the market for one, my search would start with something like “anything but Tesla”.

    Can’t imagine why they’re struggling, lol.

    • hannes3120
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      394 months ago

      The Venn diagram of “people that like Elon musk and want to support him with their money” and “people that consider buying an electric car for environmental reasons” is having very little overlap in recent years

    • @ramenshaman
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      94 months ago

      Used EV prices have come down quite a bit. There’s a solar EV startup called Aptera that’s making a super efficient EV that the base model will sell for around $26k before tax incentives, so a new one could theoretically, potentially be under $20k.

      • @Paddzr
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        214 months ago

        I’ll belive it when I see it

        • @ramenshaman
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          24 months ago

          They seem to be getting close. I think they have all the funding they need now, they’re planning to start production around the end of the year. I think they’re starting to make their first production-intent parts and are validating performance, hopefully soon we’ll see some crash test results. My biggest concern at the moment is what happens when you hit a pothole at 70+ mph since the motors are in the wheels

          • @[email protected]
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            14 months ago

            They are already certified road-worthy for Canada. So they have passed all their safety requirements for Canada. This would indicate they could also pass US road-worthiness testing too. But the cost would be too much for them at this point in time. If they catch on, it should take little beyond paying for the certifications to sell in the US.

          • Tavi
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            14 months ago

            The renders on their website look insane. Hyper efficient sure, let’s see how well it does in a rollover.

      • @Duamerthrax
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        14 months ago

        There’s also Edison Motors that are taking preorders for Diesel/EV hybrids for pickup trucks. They’re pro Right to Repair and the hybrids will be Plugin type, so for short trips, should be pure EV. If you want a pure EV truck the whole way, you should be able to remove the engine and put more batteries in, but they want to have as few of options for the preorder to simplify things. Converting an old square body truck in way more useful and cheaper then buying a Cybertruck.

        • @[email protected]
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          34 months ago

          Edison Motors, while a great idea, is aimed at the heavy duty and off-road commercial space. Even they admit that their semi doesn’t really make sense for over the road trucks. There is little to no gain in it. Same with work pickups. But for some, think heavy duty off road repair vehicles, it can make sense.

          I’m pulling for them though. I hope they make it big if for no other reason than to push the right to repair with common parts be the norm again.

          • @Duamerthrax
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            24 months ago

            The pickup truck conversion is what I was focused on. I personally have a use case for those and I simply can’t see a use case for the Cybertruck.

            • @[email protected]
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              14 months ago

              My understanding is that the kit is for straight axle designs only, and the cost is, (depending on installation), can be over $40,000US. But if you have use case have at it.

              The only people who have a real use for the Cyber truck are car collectors. They will end up as valuable collector pieces some day and nothing else.

              • @Duamerthrax
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                14 months ago

                We’ll see how much the Edison Motors kits costs, but they have promised to cost a fraction of a new truck.

                real use for the Cyber truck are car collectors.

                Car collectors know how to keep their collection from rusting. Delorean could also rust, but the owners had instructions on how to clean it.

    • @nforminvasion
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      74 months ago

      I have no idea what your budget is, so don’t take this as me shoving this in your face.

      A used Nissan Leaf or Chevy Bolt can be around 10k depending on which year you’re looking at. I have a Leaf and I love it.

      For those of you coming in to say that ChadEMO sucks, it does. But Nissan recently publicly recognized the need for an adapter to CCS. So hopefully they start making those.