In Auckland, the council has been running an experiment, and at the heart of it is a bold decision to remove restrictions around zoning — but the New Zealand election could change things.
I think the section/lot is too narrow for that though. Realistically the non-detached option is probably “townhouses” which are increasingly prevalent in Auckland.
“Townhouses” with garages like that set sideways on the lot require an absolute minimum width of about 40’ (car storage + car turning radius) which is probably wider than the quadplex I linked (if I had to guess, I’d estimate it at about 32’ wide).
I think the more likely reason they’re increasingly prevalent is because (misguided) people want that covered/private car storage.
You’re probably right. Auckland has really terrible public transport options, like no subway (it is building a tiny loop in the middle of the CBD) and very little in the way of light rail - it doesn’t even have a rail link to the international airport which is bizarre in a city of that size and sprawl. People there are obsessed with cars, but unless you live in the inner suburbs it’s not that great without one.
There’s also a lot more of this sort - these ones have garaging at the back because it’s a new build in an outer suburb.
Huh, I seem to have different vocabulary for these things. I would call a fully detached house on a tiny section a townhouse. I’d call what you have pictured terraced housing.
Technically speaking I think a townhouse is anything in a complex on shared land. But in NZ real estate terminology the not joined up ones tend to just be called “cross-lease” houses, whereas the joined up/terracey ones are called “townhouses”.
Hence I used scare quotes and included a picture, cos I know it’s not universal!
Definitely, if I remember right it was always cheaper to set up a cross lease than to subdivide a section, so most of the old freestanding infill falls into that category.
Yeah also slightly denser older places like granny flats. Causes a lot of headaches down the line when shared structures need maintenance and one of the owners is a slumlord, especially with the increase in heavy rain in recent years and neglected drainage.
Yeah the maintenance agreements can be a nightmare.
Also I heard a bizarre story about a cross lease neighbours at war type situation where there were no legally defined outdoor areas so these guys were hanging out on the other people’s deck all the time to annoy them.
Most of the houses I would have considered townhouses would not be on shared land, but are subdivided freehold land. I’m going to be a lot more careful with the term in future!
Interesting! It seems it historically refers to housing in dense city areas that aren’t apartments. I don’t think my idea of townhouses as suburban detached houses built on small subdivided backyards really aligns too much with any of the definitions, though you’re right that the historical US definition is sort of similar.
Now I’m wondering what to call detached houses on subdivided sections. The ones where the house almost fills the whole section.
In new builds the houses seem to almost fill full sections as well, half the time. Apparently from an investment point of view it maximises value/returns. Kind of sucks from a liking to play on the lawn point of view though.
Haha I guess the house itself isn’t the differentiating point, it’s the section it’s on, so maybe ‘houses’ is right.
Land is super expensive at the moment (you know, over the last generation or so), so it makes sense that minimising the land use means higher profits for developers. In theory, actions like Auckland have done should make land more available and therefore cheaper (supply and demand), but there is probably a factor of where new builds are going too. It makes sense to build houses where people want to live, but this means higher demand for the space which means higher density housing makes sense.
It totally makes sense in our cities. I think the investment part is sort of warping things a bit outside that. It’s really noticeable in new builds in coastal towns where many of them are holiday homes that sit empty a lot and there’s still plenty of land. I know a town that has under 60% occupancy and all the new parts have that big house to land ratio.
I think the section/lot is too narrow for that though. Realistically the non-detached option is probably “townhouses” which are increasingly prevalent in Auckland.
“Townhouses” with garages like that set sideways on the lot require an absolute minimum width of about 40’ (car storage + car turning radius) which is probably wider than the quadplex I linked (if I had to guess, I’d estimate it at about 32’ wide).
I think the more likely reason they’re increasingly prevalent is because (misguided) people want that covered/private car storage.
You’re probably right. Auckland has really terrible public transport options, like no subway (it is building a tiny loop in the middle of the CBD) and very little in the way of light rail - it doesn’t even have a rail link to the international airport which is bizarre in a city of that size and sprawl. People there are obsessed with cars, but unless you live in the inner suburbs it’s not that great without one.
There’s also a lot more of this sort - these ones have garaging at the back because it’s a new build in an outer suburb.
Huh, I seem to have different vocabulary for these things. I would call a fully detached house on a tiny section a townhouse. I’d call what you have pictured terraced housing.
I have no idea where I got these words from.
Technically speaking I think a townhouse is anything in a complex on shared land. But in NZ real estate terminology the not joined up ones tend to just be called “cross-lease” houses, whereas the joined up/terracey ones are called “townhouses”.
Hence I used scare quotes and included a picture, cos I know it’s not universal!
I think most people refer to anything that’s denser than single family homes but not as dense a apartments as townhouses.
I think cross lease is a different thing and refers to how the land is divided legally? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Definitely, if I remember right it was always cheaper to set up a cross lease than to subdivide a section, so most of the old freestanding infill falls into that category.
Yeah also slightly denser older places like granny flats. Causes a lot of headaches down the line when shared structures need maintenance and one of the owners is a slumlord, especially with the increase in heavy rain in recent years and neglected drainage.
Yeah the maintenance agreements can be a nightmare.
Also I heard a bizarre story about a cross lease neighbours at war type situation where there were no legally defined outdoor areas so these guys were hanging out on the other people’s deck all the time to annoy them.
Most of the houses I would have considered townhouses would not be on shared land, but are subdivided freehold land. I’m going to be a lot more careful with the term in future!
Out of curiousity I just looked it up on Wikipedia and it turns out there are regional differences as well!
Your definition seems to be the old North American idea (but now they use it to mean two different things).
In the UK it’s a type of terrace.
My definition is for Australia NZ and South Africa.
Interesting! It seems it historically refers to housing in dense city areas that aren’t apartments. I don’t think my idea of townhouses as suburban detached houses built on small subdivided backyards really aligns too much with any of the definitions, though you’re right that the historical US definition is sort of similar.
Now I’m wondering what to call detached houses on subdivided sections. The ones where the house almost fills the whole section.
Just, houses? Or maybe “infill houses”?
In new builds the houses seem to almost fill full sections as well, half the time. Apparently from an investment point of view it maximises value/returns. Kind of sucks from a liking to play on the lawn point of view though.
Haha I guess the house itself isn’t the differentiating point, it’s the section it’s on, so maybe ‘houses’ is right.
Land is super expensive at the moment (you know, over the last generation or so), so it makes sense that minimising the land use means higher profits for developers. In theory, actions like Auckland have done should make land more available and therefore cheaper (supply and demand), but there is probably a factor of where new builds are going too. It makes sense to build houses where people want to live, but this means higher demand for the space which means higher density housing makes sense.
It totally makes sense in our cities. I think the investment part is sort of warping things a bit outside that. It’s really noticeable in new builds in coastal towns where many of them are holiday homes that sit empty a lot and there’s still plenty of land. I know a town that has under 60% occupancy and all the new parts have that big house to land ratio.