Why isn't jerking off more valorized as an easy dopamine hit that's also literally good for you?

@_number8_ · 6 months ago

Why isn't jerking off more valorized as an easy dopamine hit that's also literally good for you?

@LazyBane · edit-2 5 months ago

Easy dopamine isn’t a good thing. Dopamine is finite but renewable, so if you run through all your dopamine on easy hits your going to end up having motivational issues.

And if your constantly chasing short term Dopamine hits your brain is going to adjust to seek behavours that give instant gratification over somthing that’s just as rewarding, more productive for your personal or professional life, but takes longer to get that dopamine.

By all means deal with your libido in anyway that doesn’t hurt the people around you, but maybe retiring the wankers cramp for a bit might do you good once in a while.

@Skullgrid · 5 months ago

if you run through all your dopamine on easy hits your going to end up having motivational

That sounds very scientific, do you have some sources like peer reviewed and reproducable studies from credible universities?

@LazyBane · 5 months ago

I was going mostly off how I’ve delt with addictive behavours in my life and how casualised therapists like Healthy Gamer explain how dopamine works.

It’s also worth noting that this user also posted about lacking motivation to even play video games at this point, which if they’re using masterbation as an easy dopamine crutch it could explain where there motivation to do anything else is going.

But yeah, I didn’t prepare academic level citations for my lemmy post I made during a lull at work.

@[email protected] · 5 months ago

The most relevant to this discussion would be around “porn-induced erectile dysfunction”. If you Google that phrase, you will find lots of studies and results.

@Skullgrid · edit-2 5 months ago

So you’re making shit up, gotcha

EDIT : “Google it lol” isn’t a citation. It’s right up there with “it came to me in a dream”

@[email protected] · 5 months ago

That’s an entirely different problem to the issues with dopamine the other guy is talking about.

@[email protected] · 5 months ago

While I agree that it’s not exactly the same, there is a lot of overlap. It’s also more complicated than the OP presented.

Since everyone here is refusing to do even a basic search, here is one on the first page of Google results.

An individual’s response to natural rewards, such as sex, is largely regulated by the mesolimbic dopamine pathway, which receives excitatory and inhibitory input from other limbic structures and the prefrontal cortex [64]. Erections are dependent upon activation of dopaminergic neurons in VTA and dopamine receptors in the NAc [65,66]. Excitatory glutamate inputs from other limbic structures (amygdala, hippocampus) and the prefrontal cortex facilitate dopaminergic activity in the VTA and NAc [62]. Reward responsive dopamine neurons also project into the dorsal striatum, a region activated during sexual arousal and penile tumescence [67]. Dopamine agonists, such as apomorphine, have been shown to induce erection in men with both normal and impaired erectile function [68]. Thus, dopamine signaling in the reward system and hypothalamus plays a central role in sexual arousal, sexual motivation and penile erections [65,66,69].

We propose that chronic Internet pornography use resulted in erectile dysfunction and delayed ejaculation in our servicemen reported above. We hypothesize an etiology arising in part from Internet pornography-induced alterations in the circuits governing sexual desire and penile erections. Both hyper-reactivity to Internet pornography cues via glutamate inputs and downregulation of the reward system’s response to normal rewards may be involved. These two brain changes are consistent with chronic overconsumption of both natural rewards and drugs of abuse, and are mediated by dopamine surges in the reward system [70,71,72].

[…]partnered sex no longer met their conditioned expectations and no longer triggered the release of sufficient dopamine to produce and sustain erections

The word dopamine appears 54 times in this article, and overall seems to agree with the OP.

Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5039517/

@Dkarma · 5 months ago

This is simply wrong. Laughably wrong.