The news articles just keep saying it was a slur used in Italian, but never mention what it was. (almost like trying to report it, but also burying it at the same time to save grace)
After a bit of searching, the word is the loose Italian translation of the “F” slur used in English. I honestly can say I’ve never heard that word (at least in English) used by anyone but true bigots (and immature idiot kids online), even older people.
I did however have an English teacher in high school (who was openly gay) stop the class once, when someone ask about the subject of slurs. (namely racial ones) His relatively succinct response was that any slur is owned by the people in subject, and only they can choose use it to weaken its hate or let it die from disuse. (I sort of miss him, as he liked to speak to us with a frankness like adults rather than hide things like people do to kids, 12 and under)
I say that if he can’t stop using it, even “accidentally”, he may not really be as accepting as people think, and it is all just a bit of an act to try to keep that religon alive with gen y+.
Growing up, I only knew that F meant dork/idiot, it wasn’t until many years later that I discovered it had a sexual connotation. I’m curious what you make of Henchclief’s use of it here at 0:16. Is this as bad as if he had called him an N?
What do you think of Tony Henchclief’s use of it here? Is it not tucked up? Is it more/less/equally as fucked up as if he had used the N word instead in that context?
I dont know anything about Tony, but if he isn’t gay he shouldn’t be using the word. I understand comedy is supposed to take stuff to the edge and occasionally past it, but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
The news articles just keep saying it was a slur used in Italian, but never mention what it was. (almost like trying to report it, but also burying it at the same time to save grace)
After a bit of searching, the word is the loose Italian translation of the “F” slur used in English. I honestly can say I’ve never heard that word (at least in English) used by anyone but true bigots (and immature idiot kids online), even older people.
I did however have an English teacher in high school (who was openly gay) stop the class once, when someone ask about the subject of slurs. (namely racial ones) His relatively succinct response was that any slur is owned by the people in subject, and only they can choose use it to weaken its hate or let it die from disuse. (I sort of miss him, as he liked to speak to us with a frankness like adults rather than hide things like people do to kids, 12 and under)
I say that if he can’t stop using it, even “accidentally”, he may not really be as accepting as people think, and it is all just a bit of an act to try to keep that religon alive with gen y+.
Growing up, I only knew that F meant dork/idiot, it wasn’t until many years later that I discovered it had a sexual connotation. I’m curious what you make of Henchclief’s use of it here at 0:16. Is this as bad as if he had called him an N?
Ya there were a lot of things from when I was a kid that I didn’t realize until much later were quite fucked up.
What do you think of Tony Henchclief’s use of it here? Is it not tucked up? Is it more/less/equally as fucked up as if he had used the N word instead in that context?
I dont know anything about Tony, but if he isn’t gay he shouldn’t be using the word. I understand comedy is supposed to take stuff to the edge and occasionally past it, but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.