• mozz
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    27 months ago

    As to his Israel policy, it’s not as good as you think.

    It’s fuckin terrible. I didn’t say it was good. I said I think he is unhappy that the Gaza “war” is happening at all. If you want to blame him for not taking the step from there to saying “and that’s why fuck Israel, they won’t get any more weapons and we support the ICC warrant” (ideally after climbing in a time machine so he can do it in October or November of last year), I can get behind you on that idea, too.

    Especially combined with some of the most extreme border policies we’ve ever had.

    What’s your take on my summary of the border situation here?

    • @Maggoty
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      27 months ago

      I didn’t think you thought it was good, I just think it’s worse than you think it is. His statements have been calculated to give an impression. His actions have not matched that impression.

      I think your take on the border situation is wrong. It’s certainly not unblocking any time soon but an illegal and cruel EO is not the answer. This would be a great time for voter outreach and education. It’s even campaign season.

      • mozz
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        17 months ago

        What would be the answer, to you? I’m genuinely asking.

        • @Maggoty
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          27 months ago

          Voter outreach. The issue is obviously deadlocked right now so go back to the people. Build pressure for a proper reform bill. And when the GOP says no it goes on the pile of nice things we can’t have because of the GOP. Then whenever a red state complains about immigration it gets brought out.

          The real problem is that immigration is solved by doing the things big donors absolutely do not want. Giving immigrants work authorization and a displaced person camp means they have rights suddenly and you can’t just abuse them until you call ICE the next time.

          Working in good faith on the problems of the Central American countries would mean our corporations wouldn’t be able to hire mercenaries down there anymore. (Looking at Chiquita)

          And we really need to figure it out because when climate change kicks off we’re going to look back at the current situation like a day at the playground.

          • mozz
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            17 months ago

            That wasn’t quite my question - I was asking what Biden specifically in his present position should do (including “nothing” as a possible answer)

            • @Maggoty
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              17 months ago

              He can’t do voter outreach and education? FDR did it.

              • mozz
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                17 months ago

                What should be in the reform bill he is doing voter outreach on behalf of?