If you want the Dems to move left, you do that by giving them consistent and overwhelming victories. Not 4 years out of the last 24 years. Not 6 years out of the last 44 fucking years. I just went through the chronology with somebody else in this exact chain, take a look. https://lemmy.world/comment/10617871
You still haven’t said anything to explain this theory of them moving left if the left votes for them no matter what. Why would they worry about satisfying a voting block that automatically votes for them?
Lol yes I did. I see you didn’t read what I linked. Every now and then they try to move left, and whenever they do they lose the election. So guess what? Next election they move to the center to find voters. So guess what you can do? Make Dems win consistently and overwhelmingly so they don’t lose when they go left.
They’ve lost 20 years out of the last 24 years, and you’re surprised they go to the center to find votes? Lol.
Lol Gore did try to move left, after the population hopefully warmed up with Bill Clinton. And guess what happened? Bam he lost. What do you expect Dems to do when the guy who just moved left lost? Seriously, what do you expect? They aren’t going to move further left. They are going to go to the center to find votes. Congrats 3rd party protest voters! You taught the Dems that when they go left they’ll lose the election.
And then 16 years later Hilary goes just a tiny little, itsy bit left. Sure she’s not a far left candidate, but she thought maybe she could go just that fractional, little bit left on climate change to save the world. And bam she lost the election. Thanks no-vote protestors! Again, what do you expect Dems to do? They’re going to go center to find votes. They just learned again that when they go left they lose the election.
Just think how much further left everything would be if Gore or Hilary won. Everything. Policy. The Overton window on what discussion is. The next candidate could see there’s votes there and take the next step left. Instead the Overton window is now talk about dismantling the EPA, and that’s because Trump won. You want to make the discussion about better environmental regulations instead of dismantling? You do that by Dems winning elections.
You’re not going to get a big left candidate without taking the small steps. The small steps means making sure the Dems win consistently and overwhelmingly. Not just president, Congress too.
So we should vote for them because they’re out of touch with so much of the country that they’re ineffective?
If you want the Dems to move left, you do that by giving them consistent and overwhelming victories. Not 4 years out of the last 24 years. Not 6 years out of the last 44 fucking years. I just went through the chronology with somebody else in this exact chain, take a look. https://lemmy.world/comment/10617871
You still haven’t said anything to explain this theory of them moving left if the left votes for them no matter what. Why would they worry about satisfying a voting block that automatically votes for them?
Lol yes I did. I see you didn’t read what I linked. Every now and then they try to move left, and whenever they do they lose the election. So guess what? Next election they move to the center to find voters. So guess what you can do? Make Dems win consistently and overwhelmingly so they don’t lose when they go left.
They’ve lost 20 years out of the last 24 years, and you’re surprised they go to the center to find votes? Lol.
You brought up 2 centrist politicians as examples of moving left. That’s not an argument.
Lol Gore did try to move left, after the population hopefully warmed up with Bill Clinton. And guess what happened? Bam he lost. What do you expect Dems to do when the guy who just moved left lost? Seriously, what do you expect? They aren’t going to move further left. They are going to go to the center to find votes. Congrats 3rd party protest voters! You taught the Dems that when they go left they’ll lose the election.
And then 16 years later Hilary goes just a tiny little, itsy bit left. Sure she’s not a far left candidate, but she thought maybe she could go just that fractional, little bit left on climate change to save the world. And bam she lost the election. Thanks no-vote protestors! Again, what do you expect Dems to do? They’re going to go center to find votes. They just learned again that when they go left they lose the election.
Just think how much further left everything would be if Gore or Hilary won. Everything. Policy. The Overton window on what discussion is. The next candidate could see there’s votes there and take the next step left. Instead the Overton window is now talk about dismantling the EPA, and that’s because Trump won. You want to make the discussion about better environmental regulations instead of dismantling? You do that by Dems winning elections.
You’re not going to get a big left candidate without taking the small steps. The small steps means making sure the Dems win consistently and overwhelmingly. Not just president, Congress too.