• DMBFFF
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    I’ll stick to refilling old bottles with tap water.

    • @jeffwOPM
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      You should use a reusable water bottle for that purpose though. Don’t reuse single-use plastic like that

      • DMBFFF
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        Normally one puts used 2-liter pop bottles into recycling.

        Occasionally I reuse one a few times.

        Why would I buy a water bottle when I essentially have one—at times several—already?

        • @[email protected]
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          Because even the food safe plastics are proven to leach microplastics and volatile compounds into your water?

            • sunzu
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              At all plastic is made the same

              Water bottle is literally cheapest shit there is…

              You can see sml pices of plastic on the bottle fraying when you buy it.

              Not am expert but PVC is a bit different …

              But point stands, there is just nuance to it.

              We got any petro bros to clarify around?

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                I’m a plumber and it’s a well known fact that there is some amount of chemicals leaching into water from PVC, PEX and composite pipes. Enough to cause harm? Who knows.

                Also, microplastics are in the air we breathe. It’s pretty much impossible to avoid that so I wouldn’t worry too much about re-using single use bottles. There are more important things to pay attention to if one wants to live a long and healthy life such as staying lean and excercising.

                Plastic Pipes, Microplastics & Human Health

          • DMBFFF
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            Maybe, but such would be insufficient, IMO.

            We must cease using all plastic:

            plastic shopping bags, plastic textile bags, nylon, polyester, food wrap, margarine tubs, most electronics, automobiles, electric bikes, pedal bikes, definitely tires, plastic sandwich bags, tea bags, pens, chewing gum, filters, plastic pill bottles, plastic syringes, plastic in diapers, plastic in bandages, plastic in tampons, use only glass bottles for shampoos and conditioners, non-plastic combs and brushes, (most) imitation leather, plastic election signs, plastic gardening pots and trays, plastic garden hoses, plastic piping, plastic fuel containers, plastic casings for batteries, plastic electric chords, plastic in masks for the next pandemic, etc.

            • @nomous
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              05 months ago

              Nah you’re right, you should just keep using the same old sunlight-degraded Fuji bottle you’ve been using. Who cares if you’re drinking polyethylene, hell boil some coffee in that bad boy. Fuck minimizing exposure, it’s nothing to me champ, drink up.

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                Dude he’s clearly not running this thing for years. A freshly acquired water bottle can be used two or three times over a couple of days. You aren’t going to die. When I was in Germany people reused their plastic bottles constantly. They would keep a giant bottle of whatever they wanted to fill it with in the fridge, and they would fill the smaller (used) plastic bottles, which they would wash and use few times before recycling. This is an incredibly common practice and it’s largely fine. You’re just trying to win an internet argument by making it sound like someone is digging out some crusty, crumbling years old plastic and eating the shavings for a snack.

                TL;DR: reusing a (cleaned) plastic water bottle a few times before tossing it is not going to kill you.

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                  Yeah I mostly agree with you and was largely being hyperbolic.

                  But really, I got a nice double-walled metal bottle awhile ago and it’s a game changer, I top it off with ice and fresh (filtered) water from my fridge in the morning and I have fresh, icey water all day. And I’m not consuming a bunch of single-use plastic in the process, highly recommend.

                  edit: also, apathetic accelerationist doomers piss me off

                  • sunzu
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                    You aint wrong but metal bottles are now a fad and cost like 30 bucks, which for most “western working people” aint that much. That’s still decent cash for majority of the world esp to spend on a bottle… i already lost a few since i started with reusable, so need to budget for that too. Also, if i lose my reusable, yes i am getting less plastic but lost metal bottle if trashed prolly had bigger carbon impact.

                  • DMBFFF
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                    I don’t use ice nor do I use filters: just straight from the tap.

              • DMBFFF
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                15 months ago

                Those go into recycling, which, IIUC, mostly go into the landfill because Toronto doesn’t rigourously enforce preparing and sorting recyclables enough.

                For a while I used a 1.5 liter vodka bottle (mostly as a lark) but it got broken.

                Metal containers also aren’t transparent—I like to see what I’m drinking.

                If re-use of plastic isn’t the answer, then recycling is definitely not the answer.

                At least 8 billion humans must stop using plastic.

                Perhaps a more realistic solution would be to sterilize humanity now: that way, by 2099, the environment will start to significantly improve.

        • @jeffwOPM
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          Yes. Microplastics leech into your water when you reuse a single-use plastic bottle.

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            Microplastics are in the air we breathe and the water you’re filling your re-usable bottle with likely comes to the tap via plastic pipes.

            Moralizing people for re-using single-use plastic bottles is just virtue signaling. It’s basically impossible to avoid microplastics and if one cares about their health there are things you can do that have orders of magnitude greater impact on it such as staying lean and excercising.

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              1. Avoidance isn’t my goal. Reduction is. Might be the same for the other commentor

              2. Drink out of what you want, but I like being able to scrub my reusable bottle.

            • @jeffwOPM
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              Dogs piss on dirt, so if you walk on the grass, you may as well just be drinking dog piss. Don’t demonize people for that.

              Thanks, dope ass logic. Let’s just ingest more plastic!!!

    • sunzu
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      Water bottle business and how boomers fell for it is microcosm of how modern America works.

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        Problem is now Republicans around the US are banning fluoride in our water, so who knows what else they’re going to ruin re: municipal water supplies. If they had their druthers we’d all be exclusively drinking bottled water.