• Zloubida
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        Denying the Jews the right to self-determination that all other peoples have is antisemitic.

        Israel is a criminal state that should be stopped. But we can do that, we should do that, without antisemitism.

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          Denying the Jews the right to self-determination that all other peoples have is antisemitic.

          Palestine doesn’t have that right right now, and that is because of Israel.

          How do you think that should be righted?

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            The goal should be the two states solution. It won’t be possible if there isn’t a strong international pressure on Israel. Again, Israel is a criminal state and should be treated as such. So is Russia, and nobody publishes memes on how Russia has no right to exist.

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              We have seen how well the two states solution worked in the last 50 years.

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                I never saw a strong international pressure to make Israel comply.

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                  There has always been a strong international pressure against it. But the USA always vetos any resolution against Israel. The USA controls the UN.

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              I agree two states are probably the most realistic solution to the current situation. But I don’t think Israel should have been established by colonial powers in the first place.

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            Blah blah blah, two wrongs still don’t make a right.

            You can be as bloodthirsty and ruthless and you’d like, it won’t change the reasons You’re angry.

            Be better, if you even can.

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                Thus you’re denying the right of self determination for the Jew people. QED.

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                    If the Jew people of Palestine want the independence, who are we to deny it? The only moral solution in this case is the two states solution.

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      Not really. It doesn’t deny Jews the right to exist, just the Jewish ethno state that was established by colonial powers.