Genuine question. I’m not trying to make a point or anything, I more or less agree with this sentiment. What if a cop isn’t “one of the bad ones” and does fight against the bad ones they see? There are medium/small town departments where that could work. Does the ACAB sentiment allow for this? Or is it so unfeasible that its not counted? What about the very few instances where this does happen? (Statistically speaking, it certainly has).
In most cases that I’m aware of, that officer has ended up leaving the police force. Sometimes they realize it’s a futile effort and quit, sometimes they’re basically forced off, and sometimes they end up dead under totally not suspicious circumstances. Non-bastard cops just don’t usually stay cops.
The problem is that there’s no real oversight AND the cops will fight to prevent oversight. They love the ability to sexually abuse children and get a slap on the wrist. They love the ability to just have more leeway with the law than anyone else. Because they are the law, and their buddies will cover for them.
If you’re a “good cop” you aren’t a good cop. Good people quit the force, because enforcers who only protect property are rather useless to most of us. Unless you have the will and guile to infiltrate precincts nation wide with trusted people to transform enforcers every where, you aren’t changing them. Because thats what the KKK did to get us here.
Answer with nuance: depends on the person and their mental capabilities to be around such utter corruption with a hope of changing it. Most probably quit when they realize the entire thing is just racism and capital enforcement in a trench coat.
Bandwagon answer: good cops don’t join the force, they start community programs.
The last good cop? I don’t even know who that is, but it seems silly to label some random good cop as the last one without being able to list every current cop and whether they are good or not. He’s may just be the last one to get famous.
It may be common that they’re not cops for long but I know that, and that’s why I mentioned smaller departments where it’s feasible to not get booted for being good 100% of the time.
Genuine question. I’m not trying to make a point or anything, I more or less agree with this sentiment. What if a cop isn’t “one of the bad ones” and does fight against the bad ones they see? There are medium/small town departments where that could work. Does the ACAB sentiment allow for this? Or is it so unfeasible that its not counted? What about the very few instances where this does happen? (Statistically speaking, it certainly has).
In most cases that I’m aware of, that officer has ended up leaving the police force. Sometimes they realize it’s a futile effort and quit, sometimes they’re basically forced off, and sometimes they end up dead under totally not suspicious circumstances. Non-bastard cops just don’t usually stay cops.
The problem is that there’s no real oversight AND the cops will fight to prevent oversight. They love the ability to sexually abuse children and get a slap on the wrist. They love the ability to just have more leeway with the law than anyone else. Because they are the law, and their buddies will cover for them.
Right, I know why ACAB is a thing, but this doesn’t answer any specific part of my question.
If you’re a “good cop” you aren’t a good cop. Good people quit the force, because enforcers who only protect property are rather useless to most of us. Unless you have the will and guile to infiltrate precincts nation wide with trusted people to transform enforcers every where, you aren’t changing them. Because thats what the KKK did to get us here.
How long do you think it takes for a new “good cop” to go through the meat grinder and quit or get fired?
This is not rhetorical, I genuinely want to know.
Answer with nuance: depends on the person and their mental capabilities to be around such utter corruption with a hope of changing it. Most probably quit when they realize the entire thing is just racism and capital enforcement in a trench coat.
Bandwagon answer: good cops don’t join the force, they start community programs.
Then they’re not cops for very long.
The last good cop was Chris Dorner.
(He sure as hell wasn’t great, but everyone should know his story.)
The last good cop? I don’t even know who that is, but it seems silly to label some random good cop as the last one without being able to list every current cop and whether they are good or not. He’s may just be the last one to get famous.
It may be common that they’re not cops for long but I know that, and that’s why I mentioned smaller departments where it’s feasible to not get booted for being good 100% of the time.
The whole point of that comment is that you should know Chris Dorner’s story, and you skipped right over that.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Christopher_Dorner_shootings_and_manhunt#Background
If that’s the whole point then just say the point without couching it in an absurd hyperbole