• @accideath
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    13 months ago

    If the uyghur situation is immaterial then so is incarceration rate in general. Especially since there are a bunch of capitalist countries with a significantly lower incarceration rate than China.

    And if they say they’re socialist it must of course be true. Authoritarian regimes have never misrepresented themselves ever. /s

      • @accideath
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        13 months ago

        I‘m not defending capitalism, I’m just saying that China shouldn‘t be the system we praise as a good example.

        The same way, I’m not defending the PIC or the US‘s incarceration rates. I’m just saying, if you want a positive example for how prisons should be run, don’t look at a state that currently runs concentration camps. Look at countries with actually low incarceration rates like the Scandinavian countries, Germany, Switzerland or the Netherlands, that place their focus on reintegration not punishment, don’t have political prisoners, treat their inmates like human beings and also generally don’t have privately run prisons that “need” to be profitable.

        • @TokenBoomer
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          13 months ago

          Fascism is the bourgeoisie’s fighting organisation that relies on the active support of Social-Democracy. Social-Democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism. There is no ground for assuming that the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie can achieve decisive successes in battles, or in governing the country, without the active support of Social-Democracy. There is just as little ground for thinking that Social-Democracy can achieve decisive successes in battles, or in governing the country, without the active support of the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie. These organisations do not negate, but supplement each other. They are not antipodes, they are twins. Concerning the International Situation

          • @accideath
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            13 months ago

            What does that have to do with there discussion at hand?

            • @TokenBoomer
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              ACAB because they police property-rights for capitalism, increasing inequality. Social Democracies seek to lessen the inequality through compromise with capitalists. Capitalism employs fascism to continue wealth accumulation. The world burns. Capitalism Can’t Solve Climate Change, so it must be discarded.

              • @accideath
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                13 months ago

                Sure, but what does that have to do with China being or not being socialist? Or are you saying socialism needs to be authoritarian?

                • @TokenBoomer
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                  13 months ago

                  Nothing and everything. I’m saying we should do whatever can fix this.

                  • @accideath
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                    13 months ago

                    No argument from me on that.