• Schadrach
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    83 months ago

    This is a cop problem, not a gun problem. All the guns were working, including the shooter’s. The cops saw fit to take their lunch hour instead of working.

    This. Specifically it’s a “police do not have a duty to protect” problem, that stems from a series of court cases going back to at least the 80s.

    • @Mango
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      13 months ago

      I think it’s a problem that cops are just hired employees rather than anything more significant than that.

      • Schadrach
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        33 months ago

        I mean, if it were up to me they would be paid better, required to insure both individually and at a department level against damages to civilian persons and property, and subject to much stricter civilian scrutiny.

        They would keep qualified immunity, but with much tighter reigns on the “qualified” part. Immunity only when necessary, with civilian oversight as to when that is. We would toss out the thing where police are not liable for damages done by them, they would be responsible for and expected to insure against it.

        The insurance thing is two tiered for a.similar reason - if the damage is deemed necessary for law enforcement purposes by civilian oversight then it would be on the city and the city’s insurance to pay for it, if not then on the officer and the officer’s insurance. This eventually prices bad (but not quite criminally bad) officers out of the job.

        • @Mango
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          23 months ago

          Are you a doctor?

          • Schadrach
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            33 months ago

            No, but malpractice insurance was exactly what I was thinking about as a model.