• Pleb
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      5 months ago

      The most hardcore “map game” I’m playing is Total War (Warhammer these days). I do love me some Starcraft though.

      • I Cast Fist
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        45 months ago

        I do think that counts. Medieval 2 had both byzantines and turks in almost perfectly opposite colors, purple vs green

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          35 months ago

          Oh right, there was that one also. Somehow completely forgot about Medieval 2 (was more of a Rome player).

          But my knowledge of their existence comes more from the fact that I was dumb enough to take Latin in school. We had to translate letters by the German ambassador (Busbecq) to the Ottoman Empire from when he was sent to Byzantium Constantinople Kostantiniyye Istanbul (the wiki-article about the names of the city alone is fascinating).

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        5 months ago

        Hoi4 Black Ice?

        While I love the Total War combo of strategic map play + in the field tactical control, I think there are a good deal of map games even more technically complex, but they are incredibly niche.

        Starcraft is an RTS with no real grand strategy, I don’t think that counts as a ‘map game’.

        • Pleb
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          25 months ago

          I know that they are quite different, my point was that I don’t play those more complex games and usually prefer other genres. StarCraft was an example of that while limiting it to the Strategy genre as a whole.

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            5 months ago

            Sorry, I didn’t fully read all of the comments you’d made before, and my inner nerdsplaining came out.

            That and I’ve been awake for… 36 hours now? Hooray for incredible pain.

            That being said, StarCraft is great!

            • Pleb
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              25 months ago

              Oh, I was just answering the comment, didn’t realize I made the “limiting to strategy as a whole” remark in a different one.

              Well, after 36 hours it’s well about time to finally get some sleep.

              • sp3ctr4l
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                25 months ago

                I was finally able to sleep!

                Torn and dislocated tendons suck.

                • Pleb
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                  25 months ago

                  Oof. Ouch. Owie.

                  That sucks big time. Didn’t get any drugs for the pain? Hope you get well soon.

                  • sp3ctr4l
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                    5 months ago

                    Hah!

                    I have acetometaphine from Walmart.

                    I was homeless for months after being assaulted in my own apartment, held hostage there for a week, guy trashed the place, I managed to escape.

                    Without my wallet. Or phone. Or keys.

                    My credit is now ruined, that guy did 30 days in jail and let right out and went back to terrorizing me.

                    Couldn’t work, got evicted, barely managed to hop from motel to motel after getting SSDI payments instated while homeless.

                    What I need is world class physical therapy, what I can afford is uh, maybe when Section 8 kicks in, maybe I will be able to get an apartment and then actually have credit companies believe I am me so that I can then have the luxury of spending 3 years doing nothing but paying off debt.