• @MrNesser
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    85 months ago

    Labour lost the election BEFORE Tony Blairs win because everyone thought it was a done deal, instead we got 4 more years of the tories.

    • @Womble
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      5 months ago

      yes, but Smith’s Labour hadnt been 20 points ahead for over a year with less than 2 weeks to go to the election

      • @[email protected]
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        25 months ago

        Yep. But honestly the Tories are skilled at this shit. Labours lead has way more to do with hatred of the Tories. Then hope/love for labours offering. While the polls still have a large number of undecided responses.

        The Tories know full well they only need dislike for labour or stammer to at the least leave labour with a weak majority maybe even change to a coalition government.

        And while ill say the Tories are worse off for partners in the event that a coalition is needed. A Labour Lib Dem or less likely Labour SNP gov is not going to be hugely popular.

        While the Tories turning things around with some last min bacon sandwich like crap is very doable. Fighting for a weak gov where they can take advantage on Labours infighting is likely the path they see ahead.

        • @Womble
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          25 months ago

          I just dont see it. All the indicators are showing a siesmic labour victory and have been for a long time. Not just voting intention but “who do you want as a prime minister” “who do you trust on the economy/NHS/cost of living”, local elections, by-elections, a fractured right wing vote, poor recent economic performance, an extremely bad campaign by Sunak highlighting the worst aspects of the tories.

          I just dont see how all that doesnt result in a huge Labour victory, the tories have even shifted their campaigning message to “dont let labour win too big and give them a blank cheque to do whatever they like”

          • Skua
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            15 months ago

            It almost certainly does, but we still mustn’t be complacent. Instead we should aim for that stretch goal of knocking them below the Lib Dems. If nothing else it’d be really funny

            • @Womble
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              15 months ago

              Absolutely, I just find it silly that some people say the Tories will pull out something like the Bacon sadwich at the last moment and turn things around.