Seagate have a pretty bad reputation anyway, and these are refurbished disks that couldn’t even last a year. I don’t expect they’ll last much longer a second time.
On the other hand, I bought a few refurbished HGST’s on Amazon and found they were brand new like many had claimed.
That is many “refurbished” drives are drives that a company bought by mistake and returned without ever unpacking them. They can’t be sold as new but they are.
What I’m saying is that if you make enough of a product, from day one there will be defective units and that will happen with each and every manufacturer out there.
I expect the failure rate to be higher than on a brand new product, you’re just making the assumption that because it failed once (if it actually did, could simply be a disk that was returned after purchase) it will fail again as quickly, which is a pretty bad assessment.
Yes, though it’s not an assumption, it’s based on the reputation of Seagate making new drives that fail quickly. I’ve made a point of emphasising this.
Even if the drives were never used they’ve been shipped about a few places, so they will objectively not be as good as new drives, even movement is potential wear on spinning disks—the new drives that are already shit.
I’m really sorry, but I’m not really sure how I can spell this out clearer than I already have.
Oh you make spell it very clearly that you’re just making a bunch of assumptions and don’t understand what refurbished means or how mass production works, no need to worry.
I think you’ve missed my point:
Seagate have a pretty bad reputation anyway, and these are refurbished disks that couldn’t even last a year. I don’t expect they’ll last much longer a second time.
On the other hand, I bought a few refurbished HGST’s on Amazon and found they were brand new like many had claimed.
That is many “refurbished” drives are drives that a company bought by mistake and returned without ever unpacking them. They can’t be sold as new but they are.
What I’m saying is that if you make enough of a product, from day one there will be defective units and that will happen with each and every manufacturer out there.
For sure, but emphasising the Seagate reputation part:
Expecting the new disks to be good is a foolish thing to do,
Expecting the refurbished ones to somehow exceed that expectation is even more foolish
I don’t think anyone is expecting a refurbished disk to last longer and I don’t know why you’re trying to argue based on that…
Would you buy a disk expecting it to fail in less than a year?
I expect the failure rate to be higher than on a brand new product, you’re just making the assumption that because it failed once (if it actually did, could simply be a disk that was returned after purchase) it will fail again as quickly, which is a pretty bad assessment.
Yes, though it’s not an assumption, it’s based on the reputation of Seagate making new drives that fail quickly. I’ve made a point of emphasising this.
Even if the drives were never used they’ve been shipped about a few places, so they will objectively not be as good as new drives, even movement is potential wear on spinning disks—the new drives that are already shit.
I’m really sorry, but I’m not really sure how I can spell this out clearer than I already have.
Oh you make spell it very clearly that you’re just making a bunch of assumptions and don’t understand what refurbished means or how mass production works, no need to worry.
No, I do, but never mind; let’s not waste each other’s time