• Neato
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    176 months ago

    There were a lot of people saying they wouldn’t vote for Hillary/Biden because the DNC “stole” the election from Bernie. You see a lot of people saying they won’t vote for Biden in this election, as well.

    So yes. “Leftists” who refuse to vote for harm reduction are at least partially to blame.

    • @[email protected]
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      46 months ago

      Also, if you are putting all of your energy into telling people that the election is rigged and the candidate is unelectable and your vote doesn’t matter? It doesn’t matter if that particular moron is “just venting” and still plan to vote. You are actively discouraging others from voting.

      And those tend to be the same kind of idiots who think you vote once every four years. Rather than every single year. Because your representatives in congress matter a lot. So does the god damned local comptroller in your town. Because “grass roots” is not a bunch of people online deciding they like the c-span meme guy. “Grass roots” is about shifting your local party in the direction you want so that you can get those good candidates in office and turn a red state blue and so forth.

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        06 months ago

        It IS crazy to not vote when a literal fascist is on the ballot, though.

        Be mad, be furious. But vote for the best candidate or you’re just perpetuating the crimes of the worst.

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          16 months ago

          Your tactics ignore the humanity of the people you’re trying to reach. Stop pretending they’re horrible and empathize with them.

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            16 months ago

            If you can look at women losing basic human rights over the course of a single workday and not care because the guy you liked that had spent literally decades actively dicking over Democrats in Vermont (seriously. Look it up. It is hilarious) didn’t get the full support of the entire party instnatly?

            You are a monster.

            Anyone who ACTUALLY cares about human rights should understand the importance of voting for harm reduction. They should have fucking understood it in 2016 but they better fucking understand it in 2024.

            Because, here is the thing: I’m Chinese. Both parties use my family as the bogeyman the moment it is convenient. AND we have been indoctrinated to let people step on us if it helps others because we “are the model minority”. You give me a candidate who actually gives a fuck about 7.2% of the country and I am gonna scream from the rooftops in joy.

            Doesn’t matter. Because I also give a shit about women and immigrants and LGBTQ+ folk and so forth.

            And if someone is throwing a hissy because they didn’t win in 2015 at the expense of those folk? They are horrible and SHOULD feel bad.

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              16 months ago

              And if someone is throwing a hissy because they didn’t win in 2015 at the expense of those folk? They are horrible and SHOULD feel bad.

              It’ll be shitty when these attitudes end up helping Trump. There’s room for empathy with your political opponents. You don’t have to default to hating people you disagree with.

              People don’t always look at things the same way you do, nor do they see the trade offs and comparisons the same.

              • @[email protected]
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                -16 months ago

                Yup. The problem isn’t you not giving the slightest of shits about human rights. The problem is people not showing you the proper respect .

                Anyone who is that much of a monster was never going to be an ally.

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                  26 months ago

                  I have no clue where you’re getting that shit from - I’m not a Democrat. Nobody disrespected me. I’m suggesting there are ways to not alienate people in your own camp. If you want to fuck us all with your bullshit infighting then don’t pretend I’m the one being petty with human rights.

                  Humans can disagree without being monsters.

          • Neato
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            06 months ago

            Did you not read my last comment or are you too caught up in trying to “punish” Biden to care?