• @yetiftw
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    15 months ago

    so red rising is fantasy and not sci fi?

    • @derekabutton
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      15 months ago

      Dont know what that is, tbh. I lost interest in the series after Disney kept doing their thing. I can’t speak for any of the new stuff from the last few years.

      • @yetiftw
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        25 months ago

        it’s a completely unrelated novel series. set in space and clearly sci fi, but has castles, dueling, war games, and peasants

        • @[email protected]
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          5 months ago

          Red Rising isn’t hard sci-fi, but it is more notably sci-fi as a series after the first novel and the weird little obvious Hunger Games sequence ends.

          The combat-oriented Golds are also an obvious ripoff of 40k Space Marines and the author absolutely betrays the overall message in the third book but that’s not related to the question, I just hate that he did it.

          There can be peasants and feudal social classes in sci-fi. Sci-fi explores how society will react to future events and technology, but you could absolutely have a, for example, post apocalypse sci-fi novel about knights fighting over fiefdoms with swords in the ruins of Earth.

          One of the reasons Star Wars gets criticised for not being sci-fi is that the science just doesn’t matter to the story.

          You could have told the exact same story with samurai/warrior monks, horses, and wooden sailing ships, so the science is an aesthetic, not a plot element.

          Like, they have a literal slave race of androids, fusion, FTL, everything, and it just doesn’t fucking matter. There isn’t a robot uprising. Everyone’s poor for no discernable reason, despite AI being a thing and the society effectively having unlimited energy, etc etc etc.

          Red Rising might have had their weird little Youth Death Tournament but there was a point to the society doing that, to create a militarised group of the next generation of the ruling class.

          Why is there poverty in Red Rising? Because they’re eugenics powered space fascists and it’s a control mechanism.

          Why is there poverty in Star Wars? Because Lucas apparently never considered it should be anything else.

          • @derekabutton
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            5 months ago

            Oo that’s fancy! Thank you for sharing