• @orrk
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      15 months ago

      that a lack of government does not equal an increase in freedom, instead it just allows those with power to exert it more directly upon the less well off.

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        05 months ago

        OK, how does that connect to the point of libertarian means a completely different thing in the US?

        • @orrk
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          15 months ago

          because the outcome is the same

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            Yet at no point did I ever mention any outcome of any libertarian belief or even mention if it was superior to anything. So again: How does that connect to my point?

            Also I’d suggest you read the wiki, even that ain’t true: Not all libertarian ideologies want to abolish the government. But that’s beside the point.

            • @orrk
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              15 months ago

              to believe in something means you must hold the belief that something is superior to all other options.

              as for the abolishment of the government, sure, some want a minarchy instead, the issue is that a weak government is literally as good as none at all, or may even be worse, as for example a government that only cares about policing will just become the paid thugs of the powerful

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                  no, you’re just wrong and need to brush up on your English comprehension, believing the Nazis existed (past tense, since the Nazis are an outlawed political party, the group that believes these things are neo-Nazis, since we are being pedantic here) is not the same as believing in their doctrine.

                  these are two very different statements, one is about the existence of the Nazis, and this is a view that I take it you do think superior to the idea that Nazis did not in fact exist.

                  the other view you mentioned, you did not have is the notion that Nazis are good, hence, to remove the negative, the view that the Nazis are bad, a view that I do hope you think is superior to its counterpart.

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                    15 months ago

                    You may also wanna brush up on your English and re-read my statements as I never said any form of libertarianism is good…