• a lil bee 🐝
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    75 months ago

    Never gonna get an amendment in this country without a mass change in voting patterns. We would have to own congress for that.

    • @Carrolade
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      25 months ago

      It’ll definitely take some time, effort and big time coalition building. I doubt this specific one would be as impossible as it might seem though, due to the specifics.

      Small govt types could be convinced to support something limiting executive power. That’s all the libertarians and some conservatives. In a bloc with liberals and progressives, it could reach 2/3rds support with the populace. Barely. Then 2/3rds the states would have to ratify.

      The fact that it would be for limiting the power of govt, is critical though. Fascists don’t want small govt and just lie about it, but many people actually do. That becomes a middle position liberals can work with in a case like this, since we support separation of powers.

      • a lil bee 🐝
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        45 months ago

        You’re a lot more optimistic than I am. Look at the voting patterns of the right wing of our congress. I don’t see any small gov advocates there who pay anything but lip service to the concept. They’ll fall over themselves to not only protect Trump, but to be the loudest and most supportive of him.

        • @Carrolade
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          15 months ago

          Well, a lot of them were purged over the past few years. Fascists doing their thing you know. Things change though, that is one certainty. Not very predictably either.

          Also note, I didn’t exactly say it would be easy. Simply possible. Where, say, an amendment that made voting mandatory would be actually fully impossible.

        • @Carrolade
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          15 months ago

          Been hearing that line for a long time. No point in it.

          • @[email protected]
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            15 months ago

            There’s no point in thinking it’s possible for it to get better without the entire system collapsing. Authoritarian regeims very rarely end through the democratic process.

            • @Carrolade
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              15 months ago

              Fortunately we’re not fully there yet. Still several steps away.

      • a lil bee 🐝
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        25 months ago

        What? I don’t agree with AIPAC on a lot of things, but they’re not the reason we don’t have viability for an amendment to the constitution.