I’m sure he could have done more than he did. Ultimately, they didn’t think Trump would win and didn’t fight back hard enough because they were worried about the backlash that might cause on the upcoming election.
Now, Republicans have shown that they won’t allow votes in the last year, but only if the dems have the presidency. It also set the precedent that they can even do that in the first place.
I guarantee you someone who needs replacing further out than a year will now be denied in the future for some other bullshit reason.
Edit: here’s my worst outcome guess. For all future terms where the dems hold the presidency, but not the senate, all future SC nomination votes will be denied since congress and the presidency is conflicted and we can’t have a vote while it’s in conflict.
isn’t it fun how American politics is all about the action or inaction of 80+ year old fossils? people society at large ignores when they’re family or neighbors but they’re running the whole fucking thing
And there are still people who think voting for a third party is a good idea.
Well it is. Because far to many people are simply voting for the lesser of evils, because our options have been terrible for decades. And the longer we keep perpetuation this broken system, the worse it’s going to get.
Lets say Biden wins… this exact same shit show is coming about in 4 years again. And when that orange clown was in office, people were already trying to set up a Trump dynasty… that for some fucking reason that family should just be in power. This pattern cannot continue. We need to get out of “lets go with what will hopefully do the least damage” and start voting in people that are actually going to represent the people. Sure maybe POTUS might not be the best place to start with that, but it needs to start somewhere.
And if not the Trump family, it’s going to be some other bozo like Elon (somehow) or Bezos because our political system has become that much of a joke.
The rich keep getting away with shit, nothing happens. Corrupting in our government, nothing happens. Corruption in our police, nothing happens. Rights are being taken away from people, nothing happens. In some areas of the country, public schools are now displaying the 10 commandments for some reason. Oh and public taxes are going to help fund private schools. And school shootings… and nothing happens. Our national debt is out of control. And the state on how veterans are taken care of is pathetic. I’m sick and tired of incompetent and inept leadership. So yeah, maybe a 3rd party might be a good idea. Or we can keep this shit show up until it’s too late, which is the most likely outcome.
Even in the outside chance that the third party wins, we still immediately revert to a two party system. It solves nothing as the nature of our voting system is to turn into a two-party system. It’s a vanity vote, that’s it.
This pattern cannot continue.
And voting third party in the presidential election does not stop it from continuing. At best it just switches what “two parties” we are voting for. If you want to stop this from continuing, you work locally to get how we get local candidates elected (like STAR or ranked) and then you work up from there. But you don’t want to. You want to just do the simple thing of casting a vote and believing you’ve “done your part” which is why it’s a vanity vote.
The presidential vote is a strategic one that you use understanding the rules of the game you are actually playing, not the one you (and I) wish you were playing.
Take some responsibility for how shitty the Democrats are. They’re not entitled to people’s votes they have to earn them. If my options are shit salad and shit sandwich I’m not worried about carbs.
I said nothing about entitlement, only pointed out the facts. You can both sides it all you want, but the last 10 days has exposed how absolutely ridiculous that position is. Although it’s long since been obvious.
You do realize that if the USA goes to shit, the rest of the world will also go? Not because the USA went to shit, but because the shit-in-chief will be bound and determined to bring said shit to the rest of the world and cram it down y’all’s throats while shaking hands with Putin and Kim? He already talked about withdrawing from NATO and telling Putin he has carte blanche to just roll over Europe, and don’t be surprised if a few lobbyists in the military-industrial complex convince him that taking a second look at colonization of the Global South for their minerals might just be a good idea while he’s at it.
sounds like the American far-right is united behind their preferred candidate, I wonder why Democrats aren’t trying similarly to court the left with a good candidate?
aren’t you tired of bouncing between right and far right?
Of course I am. But given the choice between creeping fascism and immediate fascism, which realistically is the only choice this election, I’ll choose the one that still has options, however few, for at least a few more years, if only so other people have a chance to get out while they can or make preparations.
And they are all thanks to the fact that trump, not Clinton, got to appoint 3 to justices.
And there are still people who think voting for a third party is a good idea.
So…
Fuck Trump obviously. And everyone who voted for him. (Edit and fuck everyone in the voting doesn’t matter camp)
Also fuck Mitch McConnell
But god damnit, fuck Obama for not fighting Mitch, and fuck Ruth for not retiring when she should have.
I don’t know what Obama could have done, but i absolutely agree that rbg should have stepped down in the middle of her term.
I’m sure he could have done more than he did. Ultimately, they didn’t think Trump would win and didn’t fight back hard enough because they were worried about the backlash that might cause on the upcoming election.
Now, Republicans have shown that they won’t allow votes in the last year, but only if the dems have the presidency. It also set the precedent that they can even do that in the first place.
I guarantee you someone who needs replacing further out than a year will now be denied in the future for some other bullshit reason.
Edit: here’s my worst outcome guess. For all future terms where the dems hold the presidency, but not the senate, all future SC nomination votes will be denied since congress and the presidency is conflicted and we can’t have a vote while it’s in conflict.
isn’t it fun how American politics is all about the action or inaction of 80+ year old fossils? people society at large ignores when they’re family or neighbors but they’re running the whole fucking thing
Well it is. Because far to many people are simply voting for the lesser of evils, because our options have been terrible for decades. And the longer we keep perpetuation this broken system, the worse it’s going to get.
Lets say Biden wins… this exact same shit show is coming about in 4 years again. And when that orange clown was in office, people were already trying to set up a Trump dynasty… that for some fucking reason that family should just be in power. This pattern cannot continue. We need to get out of “lets go with what will hopefully do the least damage” and start voting in people that are actually going to represent the people. Sure maybe POTUS might not be the best place to start with that, but it needs to start somewhere.
And if not the Trump family, it’s going to be some other bozo like Elon (somehow) or Bezos because our political system has become that much of a joke.
The rich keep getting away with shit, nothing happens. Corrupting in our government, nothing happens. Corruption in our police, nothing happens. Rights are being taken away from people, nothing happens. In some areas of the country, public schools are now displaying the 10 commandments for some reason. Oh and public taxes are going to help fund private schools. And school shootings… and nothing happens. Our national debt is out of control. And the state on how veterans are taken care of is pathetic. I’m sick and tired of incompetent and inept leadership. So yeah, maybe a 3rd party might be a good idea. Or we can keep this shit show up until it’s too late, which is the most likely outcome.
Even in the outside chance that the third party wins, we still immediately revert to a two party system. It solves nothing as the nature of our voting system is to turn into a two-party system. It’s a vanity vote, that’s it.
And voting third party in the presidential election does not stop it from continuing. At best it just switches what “two parties” we are voting for. If you want to stop this from continuing, you work locally to get how we get local candidates elected (like STAR or ranked) and then you work up from there. But you don’t want to. You want to just do the simple thing of casting a vote and believing you’ve “done your part” which is why it’s a vanity vote.
The presidential vote is a strategic one that you use understanding the rules of the game you are actually playing, not the one you (and I) wish you were playing.
Take some responsibility for how shitty the Democrats are. They’re not entitled to people’s votes they have to earn them. If my options are shit salad and shit sandwich I’m not worried about carbs.
I said nothing about entitlement, only pointed out the facts. You can both sides it all you want, but the last 10 days has exposed how absolutely ridiculous that position is. Although it’s long since been obvious.
there are more than two sides, Democrats would do well to realize that instead of making every election about how not Republican they are.
one of these parties will be gone in the next decade
There are a multitude of sides within the population. Unfortunately, our voting reinforces the two-party status quo.
You’re entire comment is a shit sandwich and you’re a fucking moron…eat that.
oh no you got me! enjoy the collapse of your nation
You do realize that if the USA goes to shit, the rest of the world will also go? Not because the USA went to shit, but because the shit-in-chief will be bound and determined to bring said shit to the rest of the world and cram it down y’all’s throats while shaking hands with Putin and Kim? He already talked about withdrawing from NATO and telling Putin he has carte blanche to just roll over Europe, and don’t be surprised if a few lobbyists in the military-industrial complex convince him that taking a second look at colonization of the Global South for their minerals might just be a good idea while he’s at it.
sounds like the American far-right is united behind their preferred candidate, I wonder why Democrats aren’t trying similarly to court the left with a good candidate?
aren’t you tired of bouncing between right and far right?
Of course I am. But given the choice between creeping fascism and immediate fascism, which realistically is the only choice this election, I’ll choose the one that still has options, however few, for at least a few more years, if only so other people have a chance to get out while they can or make preparations.