• @Cryophilia
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    18 months ago

    I was meaning in the sense of would you vote for him? Would you support him?

    • @TropicalDingdong
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      -18 months ago

      He has to be capable of winning to be worth supporting.

      In the past 500 days, at no point had Biden demonstrated any evidence that he can win the election. He didn’t campaign as a two term president in 2020, he specifically acknowledged he would only do one term. His polling has been abysmal, almost all of his term, when we know that he already suffers from a 12 point polling deficit on Trump (Biden needs to be beating Trump by 12 to beat him, statistically). His key policies are deeply, the ones that will define him as president, specifically Gaza and the border, are deeply unpopular with the key demographics he needs to win, specifically middle eastern voters in the upper Midwest and any one under 40.

      So this all is, and always has been, on Biden, to do better on. He’s not a candidate that you can support with these outstanding issues because he can’t win an election with them. Supporting him inspire of those issues does nothing to change the fact that he can’t win. Infact, the blue maga blind support (orange man worse, blue no matter who, etc…) has significantly harmed our ability to beat Trump because it prevented any pressure being placed on Biden to become a better candidate.

      Some one needing to earn your vote in a primary season is bigger than just getting your issues addressed. It’s about carving a candidate into someone popular enough to win an election. That’s how Biden won in 2020. He had to go caress and finesse various voting blocks into supporting him by becoming a candidate and having a platform they could get behind. And it worked. He won that election by stepping left and effectively cloning the entire progressive/ Bernie platform.

      Pretending this guy can win is idiotic and doesn’t work. If for whatever reason we still end up with Biden as candidate, we’re going to lose this election. And it’s going to be because of the blue no matter who/ Blue maga crowd if we do lose. It’s an intentional ignorance they’ve maintained about how electoralism and elections work in an effort to shield an unelectable candidate from criticism, and lemmy.world, the news and politics C’s and their associated mods, are particularly rife with it. If we run Biden inspire of his obvious shortcoming which are frankly insurmountable at this point, I put three blame solely in those who made a concerted effort to lie/disguise/ and prevent discussion about his shortcomings as a candidate.

      • @Cryophilia
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        -18 months ago

        Blah blah blah, answer the question please. You talk like a politician. Would you support him?

        • @TropicalDingdong
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          -18 months ago

          Oh I didn’t realize you were just jerking off. I apologize for answering you in good faith.

          • @Cryophilia
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            -18 months ago

            Refusing to answer the question is not good faith.

            Would you support him?

            • @TropicalDingdong
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              -18 months ago

              You can engage with any of the points I made to show your honesty at any point.

              But you won’t.

              • @Cryophilia
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                -18 months ago

                Stop changing the subject. Answer the question. Will you support him?

                • @TropicalDingdong
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                  -18 months ago

                  “Demand me nothing; what you know, you know. From this time forth I never will speak word”

                  -Lago, Othello (5.2. 347-348)

                  • @Cryophilia
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                    -18 months ago

                    That is the most elegant way to say “I got nothing” I’ve ever heard