• Flying SquidOP
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    14 months ago

    As a general rule one shouldn’t believe in stuff that cant be proven.

    Then why should I believe your suggestion that there were cultures that existed before the Younger Dryas with zero genetic evidence of domestication of plants or animals?

    The point is to make you stop thinking in terms of what can’t and start thinking in terms of what can

    There was someone who recently told me that one shouldn’t believe in stuff that can’t be proven.

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      #1 You use “previously assumed not possible” as an excuse to stop exploring the idea. Come to conclusions based on your own critical mind, not because i said you should and neither because dead archeologists #3 says you shouldn’t.

      #2 You don’t need to know nor believe anything in order to explore and derive knowledge from an idea or theory.

      Exploring how aliens might have visited in the past : legaly distinct from : believing aliens exist ever

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        Re #1-

        As a general rule one shouldn’t believe in stuff that cant be proven.

        Re #2-

        If there’s no evidence, there’s no knowledge to be derived. Also, theories have evidence and are testable. What you are talking about is a thought experiment. They’re not especially useful in archaeology.

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        you should and neither because dead archeologists #3 says you shouldn’t.

        We’re talking about living genetic scientists, not dead archeologists. I realize that you’re part of the whole “you can’t trust scientists” crowd, but that doesn’t give you the right to pretend genetics doesn’t exist or is some outdated idea.

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          I swear i am not part of any ideologists group, least of all a science denying group. I am an OG lover of science and especially have a boner for archeology.

          I am not trying to convince you of anything. I am not nor ever will tell people to think a certain way, just warn for limiting what can be conceive by blindly trusting dull old teachings.

          The fact that the nature of my message is still not obvious is proof that the problem i am seeing is a very real one. People trow science around but they don’t actually commit to scientific thought of themselves. In the age of misinformation to lager is more and more essential.

          • Flying SquidOP
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            14 months ago

            People trow science around but they don’t actually commit to scientific thought of themselves.

            Scientific thought as absolutely no genetic evidence of domesticated animals or plants before what we believe to be the advent of agriculture? For some reason you don’t think genetics tell us anything about the past.

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              I am not sure how many times i need to repeat i am not taking any stance or saying anyone should believe anything at all. Its getting frustrating why you want to make this into an argument.

              Scientific thought as having the intention to understand , using the 5+ senses to observe the beautiful cosmos around you without judgement or bias. Then coming up with your own intelligent conclusions. You are free to use your senses to observe the conclusions of another intelligent lifeform (a scientist) but to simply copy a conclusion isn’t science.

              The number of things we know is much smaller then the number of things we don’t know. Be open minded for the potential of the universe to amaze, thats all really. Goodbye

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                Scientific thought as having the intention to understand , using the 5+ senses to observe the beautiful cosmos around you without judgement or bias. Then coming up with your own intelligent conclusions.

                That is not science.

                Science uses the scientific method.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

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                  Sentence number two: “The scientific method involves careful observation coupled with rigorous scepticism, because cognitive assumptions can distort the interpretation of the observation”

                  What are you trying to proof? What argument are you trying to win?

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                    Yes, if you take that sentence completely out of context from the rest of the sentences in that summary, you don’t need anything like testable hypotheses and falsifiable theories. But you do if you want to do science.