“And so I come full circle on this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be,” he said.

  • LeadersAtWork
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    Lots of talk in this thread. I stood during the pandemic against anti-vaccs and no-masks and intend to again. I’ve heard a lot of excuses, mostly surrounding a need to work and pay bills and how they cannot jeopardize that.

    I wonder if there will be excuses this time.

    • Flying SquidOP
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      55 months ago

      I’m not sure why you think the need to work and pay bills isn’t a legitimate reason to not do other things. You have to eat to live and living is a lot harder without a home. Or with a home but without services like running water.

      • @exanime
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        Because it’s just an excuse… I shower daily but somehow that task doesn’t prevent me from doing other stuff

        Similarly you can work and pay your bill while still setting time aside to organize, protest, write, etc

        • Flying SquidOP
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          115 months ago

          I thought we were talking about people using having to work and pay bills as an excuse to not go out on the street and protest. You can’t do any of those things from a cell, which is what they’re risking. I don’t blame anyone for not risking that, especially if they have people who depend on them like small children.

          But sure, they can do other things like organize and write. That’s true.

          • LeadersAtWork
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            35 months ago

            It is an excuse, when used as a barrier to why they can’t. My point being that these rights, expectations, social norms, whatever else we might call them or list, are being slowly shaved away. There is also something to be said for that risk being one of the leashes placed upon the working class. A fear of reprisal. A very real fear, unfortunately.

            Yet this is where we are. Either we take these risks or risk everything being systematically taken away anyway while we struggle to pay ever increasing bills. A slow death from financial squeeze.

          • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ
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            I think it was an excuse not to wear a mask/get vaccinated, but exanime lost the plot.

            • @exanime
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              15 months ago

              Maybe, I’m not paying too much attention… I thought we were talking about excusing people from participating in the policial process because of work and bills

          • @exanime
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            -25 months ago

            You can’t do any of those things from a cell

            According to whom… Perhaps not for long, but Americans still have the right to assemble peacefully and some freedom of speech left

            • Flying SquidOP
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              75 months ago

              but Americans still have the right to assemble peacefully and some freedom of speech left

              Sure. Tell that to all the BLM protestors that got rounded up. Or the college students protesting Israel this year for that matter.

              • @exanime
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                05 months ago

                So your point is that Americans are excused from protesting going straight into fascism because they are basically already there?

                • Flying SquidOP
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                  05 months ago

                  The ones with children to feed? Yes. Do you have children who rely on you to survive?

            • @[email protected]
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              25 months ago

              Some of us have physical disabilities that are not very visible. Prison would be a prescription for even more physical ailments.

              • @exanime
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                05 months ago

                Then that is a different (actually valid) excuse

            • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ
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              ~~Ignore, app glitched and responded to wrong comment ~~