• @jorp
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    41 month ago

    The only alternative to democracy is assassination and barbarism? What about consensus building and federation?

    Once again you’re making a straw man.

    And yes, sometimes fascists need to be dealt with with violence, whether the figurehead alone or all of them. I’m not advocating for that to happen today but history teaches us this.

    • @[email protected]
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      41 month ago

      My mistake, I thought you were advocating political violence in your original comment (like many others in this thread are). Didn’t mean to strawman you. Thought you were voicing agreement with all those other comments.

      • @jorp
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        21 month ago

        Thanks for the civil response. I can see how you came to that conclusion and to be clear I think violence can become necessary in order to defend a free and fair society but I don’t believe that it should be common or expected by default.

        Democracy has its problems and my critiques of it come from an egalitarian “left” perspective rather than the might-oriented perspective others espouse here.

        The only point I meant to make is that American democracy isn’t fair and even its ideal state leaves some people at the margins. In that system violence will always have a place.

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          21 month ago

          Oh absolutely. I think there may come a point within the next decade where violence is inevitable. But IMO they aren’t there yet.