WHAT

  • Former U.S. President Donald J. Trump was shot at a rally in PA.

TRUMPS STATEMENT

“I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania. Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country. Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead. I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”

WHAT WE THINK WE KNOW SO FAR

  • gunman is dead
  • Trump “is fine”
  • one attendee is dead
  • another attendee is in critical condition

News Sources

    • @whoreticulture
      -3•6 months ago

      Should I start reporting every comment that doesn’t have sources? 😂😂

      • @jeffwM
        4•6 months ago

        If someone has made a claim that runs counter to commonly acknowledged information, please report it. If you need a few examples…

        You would need a source to say:

        • “the new COVID vaccine is dangerous because it has killed people”
        • “Donald Trump faked an attack on his life”
        • “this new medical treatment is extremely effective”

        You would NOT need a source to say:

        • “Donald Trump was subject of an assassination attempt” (commonly known and widely speculated to be an assassination attempt)
        • A personal preference like “Chocolate cake is the best kind of cake”
        • @whoreticulture
          0•6 months ago

          “widely speculated” … like I said, I don’t think it was staged, but it’s clear that most of what is being stated the day after this event is speculation.

          • @jeffwM
            2•6 months ago

            Saying that someone who shot a president is likely an assassination attempt is not a logical fallacy. There are pretty much 2 possibilities: targeted attack and random acts of violence. The fact that he seemed to be aiming at Trump suggests the former.

            • @afraid_of_zombies
              0•6 months ago

              There are pretty much 2 possibilities:

              What methods did you use to eliminate a false flag operation?

              • @jeffwM
                1•6 months ago

                Common sense and the ability to view photographic evidence

                • @afraid_of_zombies
                  1•6 months ago

                  common sense

                  Is not a shield

                  Photographic evidence

                  May I see the pictures that could not have been faked please?

    • @whoreticulture
      -5•6 months ago

      I don’t personally think it was staged, but be honest … it’s not like you delete every single comment that doesn’t have sources …

        • @afraid_of_zombies
          1•6 months ago

          The virus was studied by multiple different healthcare agencies across multiple different continents.

          This is not comparable to the performance yesterday.

            • @afraid_of_zombies
              1•6 months ago

              Yes you personally did not compare the vaccine to the performance yesterday, that doesn’t mean other members of the mod team in this thread did not.

              Edit: oh my bad you did, sorry about that.

              “Covid misinformation is a good example.”

        • @whoreticulture
          0•6 months ago

          Speculating on an event that has already occured is not a “life or death situation” in the way spreading information that discourages the use of life-saving vaccines is.

            • @whoreticulture
              1•6 months ago

              So you’re making moderation policy based on an assumption that people who have been exposed to the idea that the shooting may have been staged are more likely to incite violence than people who haven’t been? You don’t have source for that stance do you? One could argue that believing it is a failed assassination attempt would also incite people to violence. If a comment in particular calls for violence, thats one thing, but what you’re saying is not logical.

                • @whoreticulture
                  1•6 months ago

                  You said you are restricting discussion on whether the assassination was staged because it is a life or death situation. You have not provided compelling evidence that one form of speculation is more or less “life or death” than another.

        • @p5yk0t1km1r4ge
          0•6 months ago

          Here’s your source.

          https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/04/leader-of-the-pro-trump-project-2025-suggests-there-will-be-a-new-american-revolution-00166583

          NEW YORK — The leader of a conservative think tank orchestrating plans for a massive overhaul of the federal government in the event of a Republican presidential win said that the country is in the midst of a “second American Revolution” that will be bloodless “if the left allows it to be.”

          It’s INSANE to me that you’d suggest we do nothing or even promote political violence over this.

          • @[email protected]
            1•6 months ago

            Yet you seem to think acting like a petulant child is appropriate. Some of us have had our hands slapped because we crossed a line. But you can still act like an adult when it happens.

            If you don’t like the rules, fine. Then go elsewhere.

            • @p5yk0t1km1r4ge
              -1•6 months ago

              …its nice to see how complacent and naive we have all become. Pathetic. This country deserves what’s coming if that’s the mind-set.