• @danc4498
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    14 months ago

    It’s a problem to call this article “framing”. This article is a “political analysis” story. It is not about the bill that Biden signed or the farmers that sued. It is about the political landscape going into the election. As such, there is only one way of analyzing this story. This one.

    If I were a part of the Democratic Party, this story would be very informative to me and let me know where I need to better focus my efforts.

    If you disagree and only want sunshine and rainbows stories, then fine. As I said before, we have to agree to disagree

    • @Hamartia
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      14 months ago

      It’s a problem to call this article “framing”. This article is a “political analysis” story.

      All political analysis has a bias to it, intentional or not, framing is inescapable.

      It is about the political landscape going into the election.

      On the surface the story is about the disillusionment of a small fraction of tiny subsection of the populace of the US. But there are way more electorally significant aspects to the overarching story. So why focus on that particular grain of sand if the intention behind it isn’t to aggregate bad news.

      It’s like a reporter writing a story focusing on you getting ticketed for having a faulty brake light but only giving cursory mention that the brake light was working until the cop rear-ended you while they were driving recklessly.

      If I were a part of the Democratic Party, this story would be very informative to me

      It’s not nothing I’d hope but that ‘very’ is sweating under the load it is carrying.

      If you disagree and only want sunshine and rainbows stories, then fine. As I said before, we have to agree to disagree

      You have me all wrong there. My intention was only to describe a type of electoral mood manipulation that I felt was represented here. I’m from the UK (I have a limited amount of skin in the game) so my comments are more about a recognition of patterns I observe in election reporting here.

      PS. I’m very happy to read investigative reporting that actually lands body blows. I feel that there are more substantive complaints to be made about Biden but the NYT won’t necessarily make them because they align with their own hawkish center-right outlook.

      • @danc4498
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        14 months ago

        So why focus on that particular grain of sand if the intention behind it isn’t to aggregate bad news.

        Fact is, Biden won in Georgia in 2020. He’s losing in all the polls in Georgia as of now. You can blame the NYT all you want, but they aren’t responsible for his performance in Georgia as of now.

        This story is just a symptom of a larger problem. If you want to bury your head in the sand and act like there isn’t a larger problem, you can enjoy this 2016 rerun.

        • @Hamartia
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          04 months ago

          Fact is, Biden won in Georgia in 2020. He’s losing in all the polls in Georgia as of now.

          And the article in question focuses on a granular detail that is too specific to give the NYT readership any reasonable understanding as to why that is. If it was the editorial intention to educate people then they should have composed a broader picture with polling of all the main subsections of voters and the relevant catalysts that impact them. But this is not what they are doing. They have picked this granular narrative because it it lends its self to the framing they want.

          You can blame the NYT all you want

          I would rather you see my opinions as a critical analysis of electoral media than specifically dumping on the NYT. Again, I’m from the UK I mainly read UK news I don’t have a specific axe to grind with US media.

          This story is just a symptom of a larger problem.

          No disagreement here. However the particular choice of symptom is part of the framing for the newspaper’s agenda.

          If you want to bury your head in the sand and act like there isn’t a larger problem

          If the NYT want to put out an article about the 'larger problem of disillusionment then maybe a more pertinent analysis would be of Biden’s backing of Isreal. Or Biden’s ageing (are the NYT pro-gerontocracy, probably not).

          What has happened is they have scrolled down the list of diminishingly pertinent narratives till they found one that works the negative emotional engagement they do want.

          you can enjoy this 2016 rerun.

          Electing Trump is good for the far right around the world terrible for everyone else. Electing Biden is disappointing for the US as you could do better, and bad for Palestinians.

          I don’t envy your choices.

          • @danc4498
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            14 months ago

            I would rather you see my opinions as a critical analysis of electoral media than specifically dumping on the NYT.

            I see this and think it’s best to agree to disagree with your analysis.

            • @Hamartia
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              14 months ago

              Fair enough. Have a good day.