Vance is one of Trump’s most vocal supporters and an outspoken critic of U.S. aid to Ukraine.

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Vance has said that it would be “completely irresponsible” for Ukraine to join NATO. He has also argued for the U.S. to focus solely on preventing Chinese expansion, even if that means sacrificing sovereign Ukrainian lands to Russia.

“Any peace settlement is going to require some significant territorial concessions from Ukraine, and you’re gonna have a peace deal, because that’s the only way out of the conflict,” Vance said in February.

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  • xor
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    244 months ago

    Russia invades its neighbour, unprovoked, explicitly to seize their agreed sovereign territory

    “Why would America do this?”

      • xor
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        64 months ago

        I mean, that’s straight up not true lol

        Your claim is that Ukraine - while not at war - was bombing itself? And that would be a legitimate casus belli for Russia to invade them, and then seize that territory for themselves?

        That’s a batshit insane take

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            4 months ago

            Oh silly me, your argument is even worse than I thought!

            So the “bombing the Donbas” you’re talking about is the previous time Russia declared an unprovoked war against them!

            “Russia had to invade, because last time they invaded, the Ukrainians fought back. Those bastards!”

            Edit: as an aside, you somehow still managed to be entirely wrong, despite not even saying anything in your reply directly - the internet isn’t free, it’s extraordinarily expensive to run, and costs the consumer to use their ISP, too!

              • xor
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                14 months ago

                That doesn’t exactly count when it’s occupied territory lmao