• Flying Squid
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    04 months ago

    Per capita is a terrible measure when it comes to greenhouse gases. That Wikipedia list puts Palau at number one per capita.

    It doesn’t matter how much each individual person is putting out, it matters how much is being put out in total.

    And in that case, these are the top five. None of them, including China, are coming close to doing anywhere near enough:

    • @Deway
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      64 months ago

      I disagree. Of course more people will pollute more, it’s basic math so if a country with 10 millions inhabitants produces 5 times as much greenhouse gases as a country with 1 million inhabitants, the smaller country is the one which should do more. Global warming (and pollution in general) is a global issue, we can’t ask people to produce less because they happen to live in a bigger country. The fact that the EU or the US produce more than half the amount of GHG than India or China with not even half their population is insane.

      I am not saying China is doing enough, simply that we can’t point our finger at them when we all pollute more.

      • Flying Squid
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        -14 months ago

        But it’s not mostly people who are doing most of the polluting, it’s industry. That has nothing to do with population size.

        • @Deway
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          54 months ago

          A bigger country has more industry. Spain is bigger, has more industry and pollutes more than Portugal for example and it’s “normal” (as normal as destroying the environment is). And pretending the end consumer doesn’t bare any responsibility is dishonest. I’d also add that most manufacturing done in China is not for Chinese citizens but us, Europeans and Americans.

          • Flying Squid
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            14 months ago

            China doesn’t have to allow that manufacturing.