• @[email protected]
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    84 months ago

    That’s how things get done mostly. Make sure they know we’re down with violence too. The black panthers didn’t just ask nicely, they also carried big guns with them.

    Even ghandi didn’t fully achieve what he did with 0 violence. What’s never mentioned is that there were other groups out there who agreed with him but didn’t agree with his methods. Those other groups also put pressure with both violence and the threat of. That pressure of violence helped ghandi do what he did.

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      44 months ago

      Even ghandi didn’t fully achieve what he did with 0 violence. What’s never mentioned is that there were other groups out there who agreed with him but didn’t agree with his methods. Those other groups also put pressure with both violence and the threat of. That pressure of violence helped ghandi do what he did.

      The Powers That Be only capitulated to MLK because they knew Malcolm X was the alternative.

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        14 months ago

        Yea it seems odd that there’s this push to not use the threat of violence to push back. I’m not the conspiracy type usually but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was some sort of effort from certain groups to make sure we don’t push back.

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          Part of it is neoliberal privilege, and part of it is corporate/private social media owners (including owners of Lemmy instances) being incentivized to censor anything too spicy for fear of advertiser pushback and/or FBI raids. The fact that in the Internet era all our common forums for expressing ourselves are increasingly privatized has a huge chilling effect on freedom of speech.