• @chillhelm
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    184 months ago

    What is the upside of allowing the government to kill citizens?

    • @[email protected]
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      I’m actually shocked the “limited small govt” crowd isn’t anti death penalty given it provides a legal avenue for state sanctioned murder.

      Feels like they’d be against that sort of thing.

      • @aidan
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        14 months ago

        I’m actually shocked the “limited small govt” crowd isn’t anti death penalty

        trust me a lot of them are

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      Idk what’s the upside of killing rabid dogs? Most dogs are better than most humans, so how does the math work out there?

      • HubertManne
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        84 months ago

        thats a mercy killing. rabies is fatal and the end is horrible.

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          Rabies and psychopathy are diseases. The prognosis is terminal in both cases, and death would be a mercy. Rabies is also far less harmful than psychopathy, because it results in less collateral damage. After all, psychopathy is responsible for almost every evil you can see in the world today from famine to poverty and war.

          Again, there is an argument against the death penalty but protecting psychopaths ain’t it.

          • HubertManne
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            44 months ago

            No they are not both diseases. psychopathy is not caused by infection or is it communicable. They have no basis for comparison. Also do you know anything at all about rabies progression? Its about the worst disease you can have if you have gone passed the point of no return to treat it.

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              Not all diseases are communicable or infectious. Psychopathy is a serious neurological pathology that robs humans of anything resembling humanity. That makes it a hell of a lot worse than rabies to my mind, but of course that’s debatable. Regardless, I’m not sure how ranking one horrible affliction against another makes much difference for this analogy.

              • HubertManne
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                14 months ago

                I can agree with that. Its just not a good analogy because again they are just not really comparable things.

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                  Do you formulate your opinions based on reasons you can articulate or is this just a fleeting thought you’re having?

                  • HubertManne
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                    14 months ago

                    I already expressed it. rabies is a communicable disease. What most people think about with diseases. Diseases that can spread and cause an epidemic. Not like a genetic fault or from personal trauma. They are just not analogous. Or do you want to know about rabies in general from my earlier comment. Someone had a good writeup but I can’t find it but this has it listed pretty well if it remains untreated and one dies from it. https://www.verywellhealth.com/rabies-symptoms-1298793#toc-acute-neurologic-period

          • @aidan
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            04 months ago

            After all, psychopathy is responsible for almost every evil you can see in the world today from famine to poverty and war.

            I don’t know, I think presuming you know the reasons and effects of things has led to some pretty harmful outcomes over the years.

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              You’re right, none of us know anything. We can presume no facts, nor make even the most salient observations. All social science is false, and nihilists like you are right about everything.

              • @aidan
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                04 months ago

                We can presume no facts, nor make even the most salient observations.

                Individuals can, “collectives” cannot.

                All social science is false

                A lot of it

                nihilists like you are right about everything.

                I am not a nihilist.

                  • @aidan
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                    14 months ago

                    Where did I say another?