• tb_
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    104 months ago

    I doubt people earning over €227,000 a year have any issues paying for rent, why shouldn’t they get taxed more to bring earnings more in line? That way more money can go to support the lower earning demographics.

    • @TCB13
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      -14 months ago

      Well and they are… consider an hypothetical country that runs a flat tax of 15%, if you make 20k/year you’ll be paying 3k, if you make 300k you’ll be paying 45k. In this scenario those rich people are paying more and the system is fair - after all the cost of building a road, school, hospital or helping people with a disability doesn’t suddenly increase if someone is making 300k on that country.

      Saying that someone who makes 20k should pay 15% and than someone who makes 300k should pay 50% (even if that’s on a fraction) that’s just unfair and pushing people into not wanting to do better.

      • tb_
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        34 months ago

        No, that is not how it works.

        There’s a certain cost of living. Housing, food, transport. There’s a certain “floor” you have to earn or you’ll have a miserable time in the world as it is.

        Once you get above that earnings floor wealth suddenly starts to accumulate. You can get a nicer house, a fancier car, go out to eat and vacation more often. Which is all nice and good, people should be able to do such things, but those are secondary luxuries on top of what you need to live.

        So instead of taxing everything, say, 50%, the lower brackets are given some slack with reduced taxes.

        • @TCB13
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          04 months ago

          Look, I’m well aware of Engel’s law. I just don’t agree with you, nor I agree with what most countries do, just become someone is above the line and has the ability to accumulate it doesn’t mean that person should pay an higher percentage. I believe the system should be fair, everyone should be taxed at the same flat rate such as 15% and that everyone can live comfortably with that tax.

          If, as you say, we find that the percentage to be unbearable for some people we then fix what’s wrong there, not by changing the percentage but, by making sure those people earn more and are on a better position.

          • tb_
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            04 months ago

            To someone broke; €1000 is invaluable.

            To a millionaire; €1000 is another drop in the bucket.

            The first €1000 is so much more valuable than the 1000th. A flat rate across all earnings isn’t fair to the vast majority of those who can barely, or cannot make ends meet.

            The wealth gap is already growing, if anything millionaires aren’t being taxed enough. Singular persons do not need to have enough wealth to begin a small nation, I thought we left such fiefdoms behind with the middle ages.