Hello Users of Hexbear I wanted to have a featured post discussing the next
steps for federation. We have discussed this at length among the mod team, and
it is pretty much evenly split between federating based on a "block-list" or
federating based on an "allow-list". While the mod team slightly skewed in favor
of federating using a block-list, meaning that any instance not specifically
blocked will be able to link with hexbear.net, we will be starting with an
allow-list. What this means is that only instances specifically on our
allow-list will be able to link with us, there are a few reasons for this. We
wanted to slowly integrate into the fediverse to see what it would mean for
hexbear.net's culture as well as how we fit into the wider fediverse. We also
wanted to ensure that we did not link with any instance that does not block
threads, or does not block the reactionary/fash/pedo instances.
I was honestly suprised to discover that most lemmy instances block lemmygrad.ml
but do not block the reactionary/pedo instances, sad. Here is a tenative list of
what our allow-list would look like: https://pathofexile-discuss.com/instances ,
https://possumpat.io/instances , https://lemmy.ml/instances ,
https://sopuli.xyz/instances , https://discuss.tchncs.de/instances ,
https://lemmygrad.ml/instances , https://mander.xyz/ , https://lemm.ee/ ,
toots.matapocos.dog a block-list would be massive and exhaustive to ensure that
we do not federate with any pornographic, reactionary, fascist, racist,
homophobic, transphobic, or csam-adjacent instances. We will be creating a
pinned post in c/hexbear where additional instances can be nominated for
addition to the allow-list. https://www.hexbear.net/post/277506 Please see these
previous posts by Nagarjuna regarding federation:
https://www.hexbear.net/post/273407 and https://www.hexbear.net/post/273404 If
you would like to officially put down your opinion on federation, please make a
comment with a ⬛️ if you'd like to federate based on a block-list, a ⬜️ if you'd
like to federate based on an allow-list, or a 🚫 if you do not with to federate
at all. Thank you and as usual off-topic comments will be removed.
Hexbear is far more likely to have users entering and using our comms, being another large socialist instance, albeit dedicated to left unity rather than Marxism like ourselves. I think there is enough of a culture change that we need to have a pinned post for hexbear users coming here explaining what kind of content/attitudes they might see here/what different rules to follow
There should also be a section dedicated to explaining to lemmygrad users to respect hexbear comm rules and what to expect from their users etc.
I think this would help ease any potential cross site struggle sessions
As with the other commenter, the admins that were involved with the mod actions regarding Tammy are no longer a part of the admin team and I do wish to apologize to Tammy on behalf of Hexbear (that event was part of the reason hexbear now bans “I’m Leaving” posts).
I personally highly disagree with your phrasing of why she was unbanned as it was a mod action of a single team member, the reason was “toxicity see [redacted] post” and “fucky wucky” while the unban reasons were “Comrade was ND which wasn’t initially recognized by the mod team at time of ban. [redacted] Post was meant to be sincere. We are putting in policies to prevent this in the future” both the first ban and the second were reversed by the majority of the mod team disagreeing with the lone mod, not “[Tammy was] in the wrong but it’s okay because she’s a r*tard”.
Ultimately I do want to thank you for bringing this up, if any of those half who were banned have any interest in returning I would be more than happy to personally review the bans, but I understand if none wish to return. I extend apologies and regret for how the situation was handled to them as well as yourself and can only say that the team now is very different from the team at that time, and we have done critical analysis on the mod actions taken during that time to ensure we serve the community better.
In closing I would like to state that I also disagree with your comment below regarding Animal Liberation’s place in any ML movement, but this is not the time or place for such a discussion.
For what it’s worth the Hammer and Sickle is a fantastic west marches server and if you are interested in DnD 3.5 played in a very schedule friendly format with an inclusive group of comrades you should join.
Thanks for the reply and sorry if I came off a little too strong. For what it’s worth I’m completely in favor with federation and if the administrative team has gotten better, I’m glad to hear about it (though from what I understand the problem was far from just one or two rogue mods; but at this point I’m dealing with 1-2+ year old memory of ancient struggle sessions).
I know Hellscyth, one of our moderators, was banned for complaining about the admins during the early “If you complain about the staff at all you’re a ‘wrecker’” days (though she’s kind of fallen off in activity and I would feel weird bringing this up to her now; and for what it’s worth she seemed pretty done with Hexbear anyways by that point). I don’t honestly think I’ve heard a single person in the A&S mention Hexbear for the last year and a half, so we’re all talking ancient history at this point. Out of our current staff and regular playership, I think she’s the only one still around with a Hexbear ban.
Between the “Wrecker” fiasco, the three or four separate trans issues struggle sessions, the downvote removals, (EDIT: The Vegans!), and the constant browbeating from certain members of staff over users who are “Posting online and not going out and doing real Praxis, like me”, there’s a reason I stopped interacting (except to shill my DnD Server, sorry lol) well over a year ago.
But I also recognize that I’m obviously not the target audience for Hexbear, and I probably never would have felt completely at home with the direction it was taking. I like arguing with chuds and libs. It’s what keeps my blood churning. Safe spaces are boring (to me). The only times I really interacted with the Hexbear were, ironically, during the struggle sessions, because it gave me something to actually engage with. Lemmygrad with federation brings back some of that original Chapo feel, with the “home” where you can be affirmed and the “hinterlands” where you go off to fight the posting wars.
Lemmygrad with federation brings back some of that original Chapo feel, with the “home” where you can be affirmed and the “hinterlands” where you go off to fight the posting wars.
As a Hexbear user this is what I’m most excited for. Back the the posting trenches
As with the other commenter, the admins that were involved with the mod actions regarding Tammy are no longer a part of the admin team and I do wish to apologize to Tammy on behalf of Hexbear (that event was part of the reason hexbear now bans “I’m Leaving” posts).
I personally highly disagree with your phrasing of why she was unbanned as it was a mod action of a single team member, the reason was “toxicity see [redacted] post” and “fucky wucky” while the unban reasons were “Comrade was ND which wasn’t initially recognized by the mod team at time of ban. [redacted] Post was meant to be sincere. We are putting in policies to prevent this in the future” both the first ban and the second were reversed by the majority of the mod team disagreeing with the lone mod, not “[Tammy was] in the wrong but it’s okay because she’s a r*tard”.
Ultimately I do want to thank you for bringing this up, if any of those half who were banned have any interest in returning I would be more than happy to personally review the bans, but I understand if none wish to return. I extend apologies and regret for how the situation was handled to them as well as yourself and can only say that the team now is very different from the team at that time, and we have done critical analysis on the mod actions taken during that time to ensure we serve the community better.
In closing I would like to state that I also disagree with your comment below regarding Animal Liberation’s place in any ML movement, but this is not the time or place for such a discussion.
For what it’s worth the Hammer and Sickle is a fantastic west marches server and if you are interested in DnD 3.5 played in a very schedule friendly format with an inclusive group of comrades you should join.
Thanks for the reply and sorry if I came off a little too strong. For what it’s worth I’m completely in favor with federation and if the administrative team has gotten better, I’m glad to hear about it (though from what I understand the problem was far from just one or two rogue mods; but at this point I’m dealing with 1-2+ year old memory of ancient struggle sessions).
I know Hellscyth, one of our moderators, was banned for complaining about the admins during the early “If you complain about the staff at all you’re a ‘wrecker’” days (though she’s kind of fallen off in activity and I would feel weird bringing this up to her now; and for what it’s worth she seemed pretty done with Hexbear anyways by that point). I don’t honestly think I’ve heard a single person in the A&S mention Hexbear for the last year and a half, so we’re all talking ancient history at this point. Out of our current staff and regular playership, I think she’s the only one still around with a Hexbear ban.
Between the “Wrecker” fiasco, the three or four separate trans issues struggle sessions, the downvote removals, (EDIT: The Vegans!), and the constant browbeating from certain members of staff over users who are “Posting online and not going out and doing real Praxis, like me”, there’s a reason I stopped interacting (except to shill my DnD Server, sorry lol) well over a year ago.
But I also recognize that I’m obviously not the target audience for Hexbear, and I probably never would have felt completely at home with the direction it was taking. I like arguing with chuds and libs. It’s what keeps my blood churning. Safe spaces are boring (to me). The only times I really interacted with the Hexbear were, ironically, during the struggle sessions, because it gave me something to actually engage with. Lemmygrad with federation brings back some of that original Chapo feel, with the “home” where you can be affirmed and the “hinterlands” where you go off to fight the posting wars.
As a Hexbear user this is what I’m most excited for. Back the the posting trenches